What was the last year of "regular" ignition keys on the 3 series?

My understanding is that -- in the UK at least -- overall theft of newer
cars is falling because it is getting harder.

DAS

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> What was the last year of "regular" ignition keys on the 3 series?
> Regular as in no chip, no memory, no other stupid anti-theft idiocy?
> Now that I think of it, even those keys are a screwy non-duplicatable
> shape, but at least just plain metal. I wonder when that started..
>
> Begin Rant.
> Why do car companies do stupid crap like this? Anybody who's smart enough
> to steal a car with a master key or somehow pick the stupid lock isn't
> going to bother, they're just going to crack the steering column!
> If they're a carjacker, they're going to take YOUR key.
> If you have one of those foolish thumb print things, they might take your
> thumb too! Note: HAS happened, just like I knew it would the second I
> heard about those.
> If they pick your pocket, they don't need a dupe.
> The only person it's going to protect you against is a devious spouse or
> kid, and the non-copy keys did that already.
> So, I say stupid stupid STUPID!
> Scam to squeeze even more $ out of you to replace it if you lose one.
> End Rant
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> My understanding is that -- in the UK at least -- overall theft of newer
> cars is falling because it is getting harder.
>
> DAS

What I've heard is that, instead of simply stealing your car (which is
getting harder to do), thieves now first burglarize your house in order
to acquire the keys, _then_ they steal the car. Keeps the car intact too.

Admittedly, by its very nature, this combination of actions is harder to
commit, so overall it should indeed happen less frequently.

On the other hand, carjackings and thumb (and/or eye) removal usually go
beyond what the average, hard-working car thief is prepared to do to
acquire a car. (Of course, a Latvian or Serb outfit won't even blink at
the sight of a pair of bolt cutters snipping off a well-manicured thumb
or two.)


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>>What was the last year of "regular" ignition keys on the 3 series?
>>Regular as in no chip, no memory, no other stupid anti-theft idiocy?
>>Now that I think of it, even those keys are a screwy non-duplicatable
>>shape, but at least just plain metal. I wonder when that started..
>>
>>Begin Rant.
>>Why do car companies do stupid crap like this? Anybody who's smart enough
>>to steal a car with a master key or somehow pick the stupid lock isn't
>>going to bother, they're just going to crack the steering column!
>>If they're a carjacker, they're going to take YOUR key.
>>If you have one of those foolish thumb print things, they might take your
>>thumb too! Note: HAS happened, just like I knew it would the second I
>>heard about those.
>>If they pick your pocket, they don't need a dupe.
>>The only person it's going to protect you against is a devious spouse or
>>kid, and the non-copy keys did that already.
>>So, I say stupid stupid STUPID!
>>Scam to squeeze even more $ out of you to replace it if you lose one.
>>End Rant
>>--
>>________________________________________________ _____
>>Drivin a 94 BMW 325is w/sport.
>>For email response, or CC, please mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
>>Yeah, it's really a real address

I happen to think its a good idea, it has certainly eliminated the
lock-picking thief, and its not that difficult to keep a key safe from
burglars.
if your stupid enough to leave your keys to your £30,000 beemer hanging on
the wall by the front door, well you know the rest.
Steve.


"Peter Bozz" > wrote in message
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> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> > My understanding is that -- in the UK at least -- overall theft of newer
> > cars is falling because it is getting harder.
> >
> > DAS
>
> What I've heard is that, instead of simply stealing your car (which is
> getting harder to do), thieves now first burglarize your house in order
> to acquire the keys, _then_ they steal the car. Keeps the car intact too.
>
> Admittedly, by its very nature, this combination of actions is harder to
> commit, so overall it should indeed happen less frequently.
>
> On the other hand, carjackings and thumb (and/or eye) removal usually go
> beyond what the average, hard-working car thief is prepared to do to
> acquire a car. (Of course, a Latvian or Serb outfit won't even blink at
> the sight of a pair of bolt cutters snipping off a well-manicured thumb
> or two.)
>
>
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> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>What was the last year of "regular" ignition keys on the 3 series?
> >>Regular as in no chip, no memory, no other stupid anti-theft idiocy?
> >>Now that I think of it, even those keys are a screwy non-duplicatable
> >>shape, but at least just plain metal. I wonder when that started..
> >>
> >>Begin Rant.
> >>Why do car companies do stupid crap like this? Anybody who's smart
enough
> >>to steal a car with a master key or somehow pick the stupid lock isn't
> >>going to bother, they're just going to crack the steering column!
> >>If they're a carjacker, they're going to take YOUR key.
> >>If you have one of those foolish thumb print things, they might take
your
> >>thumb too! Note: HAS happened, just like I knew it would the second I
> >>heard about those.
> >>If they pick your pocket, they don't need a dupe.
> >>The only person it's going to protect you against is a devious spouse or
> >>kid, and the non-copy keys did that already.
> >>So, I say stupid stupid STUPID!
> >>Scam to squeeze even more $ out of you to replace it if you lose one.
> >>End Rant
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ _____
> >>Drivin a 94 BMW 325is w/sport.
> >>For email response, or CC, please
mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
> >>Yeah, it's really a real address