Snow tires on a Saturn???

I live in Michigan and put a set of Dunlop Graspics on my son's
Saturn. He loves them. Cleveland gets tons of snow. If you can
afford it, a set of winter tires would go a long way to keeping her
safer. I got excellent service from Tirerack. 4 tires and rims
mounted and balanced, and delivered to our door for just over $470.

Ken

"Lane" > wrote in message
...
> > Good quality all-season radials will do just fine.
>
> And real snow tires will do even better.
>
> I've been running Blizzaks on my '94 SC2 in the winter for years
(live in
> WI). Can't imagine how I ever went without them.
>
> Tire Rack has a section where their customers can review tires and
post
> their opinions. I found it very helpful in the past.
>
> Lane [ lane (at) evilplastic.com ]
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>
>
> "Peter Young" > wrote in message
> news:e5kzd.560637$wV.482783@attbi_s54...
> > "Dick Snyder" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > My daughter has a 1993 Saturn SL2. She has just moved to
Cleveland from
> > > California. I'm sure this newsgroup has posted articles from
time to
> time
> > > about the advisability of snow tires on a Saturn but I can't
find any
> just
> > > now or anything very good with a Google search. A search of the
tire
> rack
> > > website was nice but they are in the business of selling tires
after
> all.
> > > Can anyone here recommend a good resource that can answer the
question
> or at
> > > least give some good information about whether or not it would
be
> advisable
> > > for her to buy snow tires?
> >
> > Good quality all-season radials will do just fine.
> >
> >
>
>

Salt
pepper
soy & teriyaki
minced ginger, etc.
1 tablespoon cornstarch dissolved in a little cold water
1 egg beaten

Make the stuffing:
Marinate the flesh in a mixture of soy and teriyaki sauces
then stir fry in hot oil for till brown - about 1 minute, remove.
Stir-fry the vegetables.
Put the meat back into the wok and adjust the seasoning.
De-glaze with sherry, cooking off the alcohol.
Add broth (optional) cook a few more minutes.
Add the cornstarch, cook a few minutes till thick,
then place the stuffing into a colander and cool;
2 hours
Wrap the rolls:
Place 3 tablespoons of stuffing in the wrap, roll tightly -
corner nearest you first, fold 2 side corners in,
wrap till remaining corner is left.
Brush with egg, seal, and allow to sit on the seal for
a few minutes.
Fry the rolls:
325° if using egg roll wraps, 350° for spring roll wraps.
Deep fry in peanut oil till crispy golden brown, drain on paper towels.



L

My girlfriend had brand new all seasons on her 98 SL1 and on my SL1 I had 2
year old winter tires with 40,000 km on them. She got stuck in her driveway
and after another 3 inches of snow I drove out to pick her up. The next day
we went to get her some snow tires too. I would most definitely recommend
snow tires to anyone who could afford them (maybe even if you couldn't).

"Dick Snyder" > wrote in message
...
> My daughter has a 1993 Saturn SL2. She has just moved to Cleveland from
> California. I'm sure this newsgroup has posted articles from time to time
> about the advisability of snow tires on a Saturn but I can't find any just
> now or anything very good with a Google search. A search of the tire rack
> website was nice but they are in the business of selling tires after all.
> Can anyone here recommend a good resource that can answer the question or
> at least give some good information about whether or not it would be
> advisable for her to buy snow tires?
>
> TIA.
>
> Dick Snyder
>

"Lane" > wrote in message ...
> > Good quality all-season radials will do just fine.
>
> And real snow tires will do even better.
>
> I've been running Blizzaks on my '94 SC2 in the winter for years (live in
> WI). Can't imagine how I ever went without them.

That surprises me. I've lived all my life in Minnesota and have never had trouble getting around - especially in a FWD
car. My 98 SL2 was fantastic in the snow using the stock radials.

In an urban area like Cleveland, the streets are maintained and there shouldn't be an issue. The most important thing is
knowing how to drive on snow and ice. If you don't, it doesn't matter what kind of (legal) tire you buy.


>
> Tire Rack has a section where their customers can review tires and post
> their opinions. I found it very helpful in the past.

Agreed.

-Pete

In article <WFMzd.241219$5K2.157769@attbi_s03>,
se says...
> "Lane" > wrote in message ...
> > > Good quality all-season radials will do just fine.
> >
> > And real snow tires will do even better.
> >
> > I've been running Blizzaks on my '94 SC2 in the winter for years (live in
> > WI). Can't imagine how I ever went without them.
>
> That surprises me. I've lived all my life in Minnesota and have never had trouble getting around - especially in a FWD
> car. My 98 SL2 was fantastic in the snow using the stock radials.
>
> In an urban area like Cleveland, the streets are maintained and there shouldn't be an issue. The most important thing is
> knowing how to drive on snow and ice. If you don't, it doesn't matter what kind of (legal) tire you buy.

Only thing I know off hand that can drive on ice is a zamboni.

> > Tire Rack has a section where their customers can review tires and post
> > their opinions. I found it very helpful in the past.
>
> Agreed.
>
> -Pete

One big advantage for driving in snow is traction control. If you have
traction control you shouldnt have to worry about snow tires. You just
need tires with decent tread depth.

Blah blah > typed until their fingers bled, and came up with:


> Only thing I know off hand that can drive on ice is a zamboni.

which is nothing but a HD GM truck frame with good snow tires. they drive
slow enough that it isn't a problem. They drive other cars on the ice
inbetween periods for promotions - as long as you keep the speeds to just
above a crawl, you're fine on an ice rink.

--
Visit the Saturn Performance Club - http://www.saturnperformanceclub.com

If you can afford snow tires than I would recommend you to 2 of get them for
the front. It can only improve your traction and safety. All season tire
tread compound are not the same as snow tire especially under freezing
condition. You can quickly loose control on highway without time to react.
Sure front wheel drive care is an improvement over rear wheel drive car but
front wheel drive car with snow tire is added extra security. All wheel
drive vehicle like Subaru even better. Now in Cleveland is much diff. than
Canada where our temperature can drop below 0F plus heavy snow, snow-drift
over the highway, local roads (except main street) is always covered with
snow and ice. Driving with all season tire you will get stuck in just few
inches of snow like this poster said.

"Roy" <crawroy @ nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
...
> My girlfriend had brand new all seasons on her 98 SL1 and on my SL1 I had
2
> year old winter tires with 40,000 km on them. She got stuck in her
driveway
> and after another 3 inches of snow I drove out to pick her up. The next
day
> we went to get her some snow tires too. I would most definitely recommend
> snow tires to anyone who could afford them (maybe even if you couldn't).
>
> "Dick Snyder" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My daughter has a 1993 Saturn SL2. She has just moved to Cleveland from
> > California. I'm sure this newsgroup has posted articles from time to
time
> > about the advisability of snow tires on a Saturn but I can't find any
just
> > now or anything very good with a Google search. A search of the tire
rack
> > website was nice but they are in the business of selling tires after
all.
> > Can anyone here recommend a good resource that can answer the question
or
> > at least give some good information about whether or not it would be
> > advisable for her to buy snow tires?
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > Dick Snyder
> >
>
>

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:47:01 -0500, "Paul" > wrote:

>If you can afford snow tires than I would recommend you to 2 of get them for
>the front. It can only improve your traction and safety. All season tire

Does having two radically different tires effect the handling, or safe
stopping?


>tread compound are not the same as snow tire especially under freezing
>condition. You can quickly loose control on highway without time to react.
>Sure front wheel drive care is an improvement over rear wheel drive car but
>front wheel drive car with snow tire is added extra security. All wheel
>drive vehicle like Subaru even better. Now in Cleveland is much diff. than
>Canada where our temperature can drop below 0F plus heavy snow, snow-drift
>over the highway, local roads (except main street) is always covered with
>snow and ice. Driving with all season tire you will get stuck in just few
>inches of snow like this poster said.
>
>"Roy" <crawroy @ nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
...
>> My girlfriend had brand new all seasons on her 98 SL1 and on my SL1 I had
>2
>> year old winter tires with 40,000 km on them. She got stuck in her
>driveway
>> and after another 3 inches of snow I drove out to pick her up. The next
>day
>> we went to get her some snow tires too. I would most definitely recommend
>> snow tires to anyone who could afford them (maybe even if you couldn't).
>>
>> "Dick Snyder" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > My daughter has a 1993 Saturn SL2. She has just moved to Cleveland from
>> > California. I'm sure this newsgroup has posted articles from time to
>time
>> > about the advisability of snow tires on a Saturn but I can't find any
>just
>> > now or anything very good with a Google search. A search of the tire
>rack
>> > website was nice but they are in the business of selling tires after
>all.
>> > Can anyone here recommend a good resource that can answer the question
>or
>> > at least give some good information about whether or not it would be
>> > advisable for her to buy snow tires?
>> >
>> > TIA.
>> >
>> > Dick Snyder
>> >
>>
>>
>

thanks,

tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com

You really should run snow tires on all for wheels due to the
difference in handling characteristics. Quite possibly the snow tires
will be of a different size than the other tires.


> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:47:01 -0500, "Paul" > wrote:
>
> >If you can afford snow tires than I would recommend you to 2 of get
them for
> >the front. It can only improve your traction and safety. All
season tire
>
> Does having two radically different tires effect the handling, or
safe
> stopping?
>
>
> >tread compound are not the same as snow tire especially under
freezing
> >condition. You can quickly loose control on highway without time
to react.
> >Sure front wheel drive care is an improvement over rear wheel drive
car but
> >front wheel drive car with snow tire is added extra security. All
wheel
> >drive vehicle like Subaru even better. Now in Cleveland is much
diff. than
> >Canada where our temperature can drop below 0F plus heavy snow,
snow-drift
> >over the highway, local roads (except main street) is always
covered with
> >snow and ice. Driving with all season tire you will get stuck in
just few
> >inches of snow like this poster said.
> >
> >"Roy" <crawroy @ nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> ...
> >> My girlfriend had brand new all seasons on her 98 SL1 and on my
SL1 I had
> >2
> >> year old winter tires with 40,000 km on them. She got stuck in
her
> >driveway
> >> and after another 3 inches of snow I drove out to pick her up.
The next
> >day
> >> we went to get her some snow tires too. I would most definitely
recommend
> >> snow tires to anyone who could afford them (maybe even if you
couldn't).
> >>
> >> "Dick Snyder" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > My daughter has a 1993 Saturn SL2. She has just moved to
Cleveland from
> >> > California. I'm sure this newsgroup has posted articles from
time to
> >time
> >> > about the advisability of snow tires on a Saturn but I can't
find any
> >just
> >> > now or anything very good with a Google search. A search of the
tire
> >rack
> >> > website was nice but they are in the business of selling tires
after
> >all.
> >> > Can anyone here recommend a good resource that can answer the
question
> >or
> >> > at least give some good information about whether or not it
would be
> >> > advisable for her to buy snow tires?
> >> >
> >> > TIA.
> >> >
> >> > Dick Snyder
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> thanks,
>
> tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
>
>

And as sombody pointed out in another thread on tires having grip in the
front and less in the back can cause the back end to come around during
braking or on sharp corners. I would definately suggest all four if you can
afford it, if not then maybe shop for 4 used winter tires. They may not have
all the tread but at least they should be a softer compound and grip a
little better on the packed snow.
"Napalm Heart" > wrote in message
...
> You really should run snow tires on all for wheels due to the
> difference in handling characteristics. Quite possibly the snow tires
> will be of a different size than the other tires.
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:47:01 -0500, "Paul" > wrote:
>>
>> >If you can afford snow tires than I would recommend you to 2 of get
> them for
>> >the front. It can only improve your traction and safety. All
> season tire
>>
>> Does having two radically different tires effect the handling, or
> safe
>> stopping?
>>
>>
>> >tread compound are not the same as snow tire especially under
> freezing
>> >condition. You can quickly loose control on highway without time
> to react.
>> >Sure front wheel drive care is an improvement over rear wheel drive
> car but
>> >front wheel drive car with snow tire is added extra security. All
> wheel
>> >drive vehicle like Subaru even better. Now in Cleveland is much
> diff. than
>> >Canada where our temperature can drop below 0F plus heavy snow,
> snow-drift
>> >over the highway, local roads (except main street) is always
> covered with
>> >snow and ice. Driving with all season tire you will get stuck in
> just few
>> >inches of snow like this poster said.
>> >
>> >"Roy" <crawroy @ nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> My girlfriend had brand new all seasons on her 98 SL1 and on my
> SL1 I had
>> >2
>> >> year old winter tires with 40,000 km on them. She got stuck in
> her
>> >driveway
>> >> and after another 3 inches of snow I drove out to pick her up.
> The next
>> >day
>> >> we went to get her some snow tires too. I would most definitely
> recommend
>> >> snow tires to anyone who could afford them (maybe even if you
> couldn't).
>> >>
>> >> "Dick Snyder" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > My daughter has a 1993 Saturn SL2. She has just moved to
> Cleveland from
>> >> > California. I'm sure this newsgroup has posted articles from
> time to
>> >time
>> >> > about the advisability of snow tires on a Saturn but I can't
> find any
>> >just
>> >> > now or anything very good with a Google search. A search of the
> tire
>> >rack
>> >> > website was nice but they are in the business of selling tires
> after
>> >all.
>> >> > Can anyone here recommend a good resource that can answer the
> question
>> >or
>> >> > at least give some good information about whether or not it
> would be
>> >> > advisable for her to buy snow tires?
>> >> >
>> >> > TIA.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dick Snyder
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
>>
>>
>
>