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Replacing front tires
I always followed the pattern, similar to what Nate described, under these circumstances. 1] The rear tires were less worn and in good shape [more prevalent on FWD than RWD]. 2] Whether the car was FWD or RWD, I did this on both drive systems, I always rotated the better back tires to the front, and put the new tread on the back. Sure beats $$$ for 4 all-around, I still ended up with better tread front tires and new on the back. That is a real-world situation for most folks, just spend what is needed to keep the car reasonably safe, and I truly don't care if others say do it right always. That is certainly good advice, but not always practical advice for limited budgets. However, a drawback to this. Tire rotation, later, which many folks neglect, will then put the more worn tires on the back, or if they follow an X-pattern rotation, they get a worn and a new tire on both axles. Myself, I pay attention to that, as best as I can on a limited budget. I haven't had any problems with two new instead of four new tires. -- Knifeblade_03 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Knifeblade_03's Profile: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...?userid=262826 View this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=614066 http://www.automotiveforums.com |
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SP Cook > wrote in article . com>... > > > > It is dangerous and foolish to replace only two tires on any front > wheel drive car. > Don't you just love guys who make a statement such as the one above, but give absolutely no rational reason or reasonable support for it? Musta' been the guys at the local Elks club told him that over a few beers...... Or, maybe his Grampa' told him that on the same day he recommended carrying around a chamois to strain the water out of the gasoline.......just like he did with his brand-new Model T Ford.... "Don't EVER put two tires on a FWD, and ALWAYS strain your gasoline through a chamois to remove the water..." |
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SP Cook wrote: > Wally wrote: > > Hi. > > I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. > > I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass > > state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the > > front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. > > It is dangerous and foolish to replace only two tires on any front > wheel drive car. What utter rubbish ! Graham |
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On 2 Sep 2006 18:06:41 -0700, "SP Cook" > wrote:
> >Wally wrote: >> Hi. >> I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. >> I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass >> state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the >> front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. > > >It is dangerous and foolish to replace only two tires on any front >wheel drive car. > >Spend the money and buy four good standard tires. On a FWD car, the rears simply follow the front. They don't even provide power, as they do on a RWD car. There's no need to replace good tires on the rear. -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
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"Bill Funk" > wrote
> On 2 Sep 2006 18:06:41 -0700, "SP Cook" > wrote: >>Wally wrote: >>> I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. >>> I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass >>> state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the >>> front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. >> >>It is dangerous and foolish to replace only two tires on any front >>wheel drive car. >> >>Spend the money and buy four good standard tires. > > On a FWD car, the rears simply follow the front. They don't even > provide power, as they do on a RWD car. > There's no need to replace good tires on the rear. I think this should be clarified. When buying two tires (usually to replace the fronts which wear faster than the rears on a FWD car), the NEW tires should be placed on the REAR. The reason is that leaving the worn (but still legal) tires on the rear exposes the car to possibly severe oversteer conditions in wet when the rears hydroplane and the fronts (with new rubber) do not. FloydR |
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:38:49 -0700, "Floyd Rogers"
> wrote: >> On a FWD car, the rears simply follow the front. They don't even >> provide power, as they do on a RWD car. >> There's no need to replace good tires on the rear. > >I think this should be clarified. When buying two tires (usually >to replace the fronts which wear faster than the rears on a FWD >car), the NEW tires should be placed on the REAR. The reason >is that leaving the worn (but still legal) tires on the rear exposes >the car to possibly severe oversteer conditions in wet when the >rears hydroplane and the fronts (with new rubber) do not. > >FloydR IMO: Sounds good in theory, but in practice, my experience (very limited!) is different. In an F-250 (>6000lbs) with equal tires front & rear, the only hydroplaning experience I've had occured; the front tiers were hydroplaning. When I turned the sterering wheel, nothing happened. I let up on the throttle, and a few seconds later, the truck turned. It wasn't the rear tires (the less loaded tires) that floated, but the fronts (with equal water on the road all around). When I let off the throttle, the rear tires slowed the truck. Just my (limited) experience. -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
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In article >, Bill Funk wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:38:49 -0700, "Floyd Rogers" > wrote: > >>> On a FWD car, the rears simply follow the front. They don't even >>> provide power, as they do on a RWD car. >>> There's no need to replace good tires on the rear. >> >>I think this should be clarified. When buying two tires (usually >>to replace the fronts which wear faster than the rears on a FWD >>car), the NEW tires should be placed on the REAR. The reason >>is that leaving the worn (but still legal) tires on the rear exposes >>the car to possibly severe oversteer conditions in wet when the >>rears hydroplane and the fronts (with new rubber) do not. > IMO: > Sounds good in theory, but in practice, my experience (very limited!) > is different. > In an F-250 (>6000lbs) with equal tires front & rear, the only > hydroplaning experience I've had occured; the front tiers were > hydroplaning. When I turned the sterering wheel, nothing happened. I > let up on the throttle, and a few seconds later, the truck turned. > It wasn't the rear tires (the less loaded tires) that floated, but the > fronts (with equal water on the road all around). When I let off the > throttle, the rear tires slowed the truck. > Just my (limited) experience. Your experience supports putting the good tires on the rear. This way instead of having the rear come around, one can just let up on the throttle and allow the vehicle to slow to where the fronts grip again. Even in a FWD car, there is friction to slow the car, just not engine braking from the rear. |
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"Bill Funk" > wrote
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:38:49 -0700, "Floyd Rogers" wrote: >>> On a FWD car, the rears simply follow the front. They don't even >>> provide power, as they do on a RWD car. >>> There's no need to replace good tires on the rear. >> >>I think this should be clarified. When buying two tires (usually >>to replace the fronts which wear faster than the rears on a FWD >>car), the NEW tires should be placed on the REAR. The reason >>is that leaving the worn (but still legal) tires on the rear exposes >>the car to possibly severe oversteer conditions in wet when the >>rears hydroplane and the fronts (with new rubber) do not. >> > IMO: > Sounds good in theory, but in practice, my experience (very limited!) > is different. > In an F-250 (>6000lbs) with equal tires front & rear, the only > hydroplaning experience I've had occured; the front tiers were > hydroplaning. When I turned the sterering wheel, nothing happened. I > let up on the throttle, and a few seconds later, the truck turned. > It wasn't the rear tires (the less loaded tires) that floated, but the > fronts (with equal water on the road all around). When I let off the > throttle, the rear tires slowed the truck. > Just my (limited) experience. That's a very different situation: 1) RWD vs. FWD, 2) equal tread depth (vs. less depth in rear), 3) understeer vs. oversteer (induced by hydroplaning.). Placing the best tires on the rear virtually guarantees that the fronts will hydroplane 1st, which results in an understeer (and easily controlled) condition. Oversteer is rarely encountered because most drivers are used to understeer (all FWD cars understeer, indeed most RWD cars are tuned to provide understeer as a first response). Oversteer is definitely to be avoided by the majority of drivers, since almost none of them have experienced or trained for it. FloydR |
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Bill Funk wrote:
> On 2 Sep 2006 18:06:41 -0700, "SP Cook" > wrote: > > >>Wally wrote: >> >>>Hi. >>>I have an '89 Olds car with 4 Goodyear Aquatred tires on it. >>>I need to replace the front pair of tires as the car will not pass >>>state inspection because of tread depth. I want to just replace the >>>front tires as the rear tires are still in good shape, tread-wise. >> >> >>It is dangerous and foolish to replace only two tires on any front >>wheel drive car. >> >>Spend the money and buy four good standard tires. > > > On a FWD car, the rears simply follow the front. They don't even > provide power, as they do on a RWD car. > There's no need to replace good tires on the rear. Unless you like keeping the front of the car pointed forwards, that is. see my other post nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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