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BläBlä wrote: >> What's so great about polymer panels that you "must" have them? They're > certainly nothing to cry over. They were as advance as they were going > to get. you buy a car, someone does something that puts a ding in it, you hate seeing it, everytime you look at it you see it, it turns you inside out because when it happened it was avoidable, but it's too expensive to replace |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:42:02 GMT, BläBlä
. S!RCRE4P.C0M> wrote: >The last WS6 Firebird made 325 hp and it received a 28mpg highway rating >from the EPA. Need to clarify somie thing here, the EPA does not test rate them any more and has not for years, Detriot performs there one tests and speed avewrage on highway cyclle is 48 with top speed of 59. Anoy wne that says they get 30 MPG with one of those cars is really spinning a yarn big time (maybe 30 KPG but not30MPG) ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
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My last long trip I got 29.3 miles per gallon with CC.
It has 2 very tall overdrives for a reason dips;;;. Lead foots need not apply! > Need to clarify somie thing here, the EPA does not test rate them any > more and has not for years, Detriot performs there one tests and speed > avewrage on highway buh buh buh what? cyclle is 48 with top speed of 59. Anoy wne that buh buh buh > says they get 30 MPG with one of those cars is really spinning a yarn > big time (maybe 30 KPG but not30MPG) > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com |
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SnoMan wrote: > > > Part of the reason for the lack of lure was GM np haggle price that > chased away a lot of sales. They had a interesting concept but lacked etc.... > > TheSnoMan.com I liked the no haggle price concept-- the car I bought was the same deal as the next guy as the one before me--I didn't drive away thinking, damn, I bet if I had argued another 2 hours I could have .... |
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$300-500 doesn't even cover the salesman's commision. How do you
suppose the dealer pays for the building, taxes, the lights so you can shop at night, the guy who keeps the car clean, etc. Some profit is essential for a retailer to stay in business, they aren't supported by your tax dollars. That said, I'm all for getting the best deal you can! Your buying technique is the most effective one out there, btw. Buster On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:13:53 GMT, SnoMan > wrote: <snip> >No dealer needs to make or be guarenteed 3 to 6k profit on the sale of >a vehicle (depending on list price). As far as haggleing, there is >none, you tell them what you are will to pay and then tell them is can >sit in there driveway or yours and if they do not bite you walk out >plain and sinple. They will call you whe they figure out that you are >serious. I shout for a dealer to make 300 to 500 bucks on a sales or >so because I am not going to pay a extra 3K or more for them to profit >from. >----------------- >TheSnoMan.com |
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If it weren't for the plastic panels, what would make my Saturn better
than any other car? I've bought a couple of replacement Saturns because they still look pretty good after several years, while the metal paneled cars are all dinged up. Without plastic panels, there is no significant reason for me to choose Saturn over another brand. Buster <snip> > >What's so great about polymer panels that you "must" have them? They're >certainly nothing to cry over. They were as advance as they were going >to get. |
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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:07:38 GMT, Buster > wrote:
>If it weren't for the plastic panels, what would make my Saturn better >than any other car? I've bought a couple of replacement Saturns >because they still look pretty good after several years, while the >metal paneled cars are all dinged up. Without plastic panels, there is >no significant reason for me to choose Saturn over another brand. >Buster Yes just imagine the new saturn owners that discover that door panels and fenders are no longer ding and rust proof and that a 12 year old one will look better than a new one when it gets few years old and has dings and rust from scratches. GM is making a BIG mistake here with a car feature/trademark but they have been making a lot of mistakes on a lot of things so this is no surprize. And people wonder why they are loosing more market share every day. It is all about building them cheaper not better. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:28:35 GMT, SnoMan > wrote:
> >Need to clarify somie thing here, the EPA does not test rate them any >more and has not for years, Detriot performs there one tests and speed >avewrage on highway cyclle is 48 with top speed of 59. Anoy wne that >says they get 30 MPG with one of those cars is really spinning a yarn >big time (maybe 30 KPG but not30MPG) >----------------- >TheSnoMan.com I really wouldn't be that surprised with his mileage. In addition to my Saturn I have a '95 Fleetwood with the same basic power train and probably an extra 1k pounds of weight. I regularly get 27mg on the hi way running 70 ~ 75. In town runs around 17 so the Saturn sure is kinder to the pocket book there. Steve B. |
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