Dana 44 may be bent?

Yes.

Figure the angle start is normally the axle center and use a machinist
level or short carpenter level and a protractor. If you cut a straight
wood piece to fit across the rim to rim cross distance and tape the
level to it, you can get it really close by using half the angle rim to
rim shows. Use a 2x4 edge on to the rim to clear the rubber and a long
level even to see if the rears are vertical like they should be.

If it is visible, you have serious trouble.

If the axle is bent the wheel wobbles, if the tubes are blown, it just
tilts the wheels.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rusted wrote:
>
> Can a home user measure camber with any kind of accuracy? Makes me want to
> double check mine.
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Did the alignment shop actually check the rear camber? True there is no
> > adjustment but if the axle is bent, tire wear is the least of your
> > problems...
> >
> > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> > nk.net...
> >>I got a used dana44 rear installed into my tj and when I look at it from a
> >>distance I notice that the tires have negative camber I think it's
> >>called... looks like this: /-\
> >>
> >> It looks like its gonna wear my tires unevenly, and I took it to an
> >> alignment shop and the guy said that there's no adjustment for the rear
> >> and to just rotate my tires frequently.
> >>
> >> Since there is no adjustment, I'm guessing the tubes are crooked in the
> >> housing? Can they be bent back into shape?
> >>
> >> The shop who did the swap was supposed to put in a detroit locker, but
> >> for some reason put in the detroit truetrac. They're gonna fix it
> >> Monday, would they have to take the rear off again to bend it back?
> >>
> >
> >

Yep, but caster and camber are different. There is no caster for a rear
axle, unless you have a GM truck with Quadrasteer.

"Rusted" > wrote in message
...
> is 0 degree caster correct for a rear axle on a CJ? and 4 degree in the
> front??
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Measure from wheel rim to wheel rim, top and bottom. The measurements
>> should be the same.
>>
>> "Rusted" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Can a home user measure camber with any kind of accuracy? Makes me want
>>> to double check mine.
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Did the alignment shop actually check the rear camber? True there is no
>>>> adjustment but if the axle is bent, tire wear is the least of your
>>>> problems...
>>>>
>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>> nk.net...
>>>>>I got a used dana44 rear installed into my tj and when I look at it
>>>>>from a distance I notice that the tires have negative camber I think
>>>>>it's called... looks like this: /-\
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like its gonna wear my tires unevenly, and I took it to an
>>>>> alignment shop and the guy said that there's no adjustment for the
>>>>> rear and to just rotate my tires frequently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since there is no adjustment, I'm guessing the tubes are crooked in
>>>>> the housing? Can they be bent back into shape?
>>>>>
>>>>> The shop who did the swap was supposed to put in a detroit locker, but
>>>>> for some reason put in the detroit truetrac. They're gonna fix it
>>>>> Monday, would they have to take the rear off again to bend it back?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Man, ya know I can't believe this.

Right after I posted that question about the 44 I was driving to my
girlfriend's house, and a guy did an improper lane change and ran into my
side... nerf bar and rear left wheel. It pushed me onto the curb, where the
right wheel hit the curb and shifted that entire rearend to the left several
inches. Oh yeah bent the rim and unseated the tire, had to be towed to a
local body shop.

I'm gonna have pictures Monday of it if anyone wants to see a $2000 3 hour
old rearend smacked. Ya think insurance is gonna help me out since I have a
4 inch lift and a different rearend than what came with the jeep? Just
wondering.

Troy

they probably will if you show receipts

--
Jarod Sprauer

Talk is JEEP at
www.sprauermotorsports.com
281-807-JEEP (5337)


"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
ink.net...
> Man, ya know I can't believe this.
>
> Right after I posted that question about the 44 I was driving to my
> girlfriend's house, and a guy did an improper lane change and ran into my
> side... nerf bar and rear left wheel. It pushed me onto the curb, where
the
> right wheel hit the curb and shifted that entire rearend to the left
several
> inches. Oh yeah bent the rim and unseated the tire, had to be towed to a
> local body shop.
>
> I'm gonna have pictures Monday of it if anyone wants to see a $2000 3 hour
> old rearend smacked. Ya think insurance is gonna help me out since I have
a
> 4 inch lift and a different rearend than what came with the jeep? Just
> wondering.
>
> Troy
>
>

Troy did pass the time by typing:
> Man, ya know I can't believe this.
>
> Right after I posted that question about the 44 I was driving to my
> girlfriend's house, and a guy did an improper lane change and ran into my
> side... nerf bar and rear left wheel. It pushed me onto the curb, where the
> right wheel hit the curb and shifted that entire rearend to the left several
> inches. Oh yeah bent the rim and unseated the tire, had to be towed to a
> local body shop.
>
> I'm gonna have pictures Monday of it if anyone wants to see a $2000 3 hour
> old rearend smacked. Ya think insurance is gonna help me out since I have a
> 4 inch lift and a different rearend than what came with the jeep? Just
> wondering.

unless your in a no-fault state it's not your insurance, it's the at-fault
drivers insurance that will have to pick up the tab for the towing and repair.
If they balk just remind them you could involve a lawyer but would rather
just get your Jeep fixed. They should also get you a rental car while your
vehicle is under repair. Have your receipts ready and an estimate from the
shop. At this point I'd just demand a new axle with all new components
(after all you don't know what else may have been damaged).

--
DougW

You forgot his whiplash.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> unless your in a no-fault state it's not your insurance, it's the at-fault
> drivers insurance that will have to pick up the tab for the towing and repair.
> If they balk just remind them you could involve a lawyer but would rather
> just get your Jeep fixed. They should also get you a rental car while your
> vehicle is under repair. Have your receipts ready and an estimate from the
> shop. At this point I'd just demand a new axle with all new components
> (after all you don't know what else may have been damaged).
>
> --
> DougW

Hell yeah, whiplash is what bought me my '93 Cherokee LOL

Shawn


"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> You forgot his whiplash.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> unless your in a no-fault state it's not your insurance, it's the
>> at-fault
>> drivers insurance that will have to pick up the tab for the towing and
>> repair.
>> If they balk just remind them you could involve a lawyer but would rather
>> just get your Jeep fixed. They should also get you a rental car while
>> your
>> vehicle is under repair. Have your receipts ready and an estimate from
>> the
>> shop. At this point I'd just demand a new axle with all new components
>> (after all you don't know what else may have been damaged).
>>
>> --
>> DougW

I think the accident may have worsened the camber problem... at least from
what my untrained eye can tell. If the insurance doesn't replace the whole
rearend, is there maybe some way I can have the shop kinda bend the tubes
back somewhat in place and weld a truss over the top of the rearend, holding
it in place? I asked the guy at the shop and he said he's done a couple
before that way.

His guess is that the tubes are bent in the diff housing and they can't
really be fixed, but the truss may straighten it out.

Any thoughts?

Troy

Not a hope of ever getting it straight again. It will always burn off
tires, eat seals and cook bearings.

I would be pretty insistent about a replacement. They got off cheap if
that's all that needs fixing....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Troy wrote:
>
> I think the accident may have worsened the camber problem... at least from
> what my untrained eye can tell. If the insurance doesn't replace the whole
> rearend, is there maybe some way I can have the shop kinda bend the tubes
> back somewhat in place and weld a truss over the top of the rearend, holding
> it in place? I asked the guy at the shop and he said he's done a couple
> before that way.
>
> His guess is that the tubes are bent in the diff housing and they can't
> really be fixed, but the truss may straighten it out.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Troy

What Mike said.

There is virtually no chance that they will ever be straight again. The odds
are against it.

If the flange that the wheels bolt to are bent on the axle shaft, then the
wheels will wobble as they go around. This is fixed easily, relatively, by
replacing the axle shafts. If the axle tubes are bent where they connect to
the pumpkin, then it means the D44 is toast.





"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
nk.net...
>I think the accident may have worsened the camber problem... at least from
>what my untrained eye can tell. If the insurance doesn't replace the whole
>rearend, is there maybe some way I can have the shop kinda bend the tubes
>back somewhat in place and weld a truss over the top of the rearend,
>holding it in place? I asked the guy at the shop and he said he's done a
>couple before that way.
>
> His guess is that the tubes are bent in the diff housing and they can't
> really be fixed, but the truss may straighten it out.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Troy
>