Ford Fusion reverse gear

You certainly are entitled to your person opinion, no matter how convoluted
it may be.

Apparently thousands of us previous owners did not agree with your personal
opinion or we would have purchased anther Toyota model.

I suggest you take a look at all of the Toyotas one will see in the used car
lots of non-Toyota dealership. If Toyotas were as good as you would have
others believe, why have so many of us traded ours on other brands?

I purchased seven Toyotas and six Lexus' in my time till I finally realized
they were no better or worse than other brands I have owned, just more
expensive to buy and maintain. Since I switched to domestic brands I have
saved thousand of dollar on the purchase price and hundred of dollars on
maintenance costs.




"Toyota MDT in MO" > wrote in message
...
> Mike wrote:
>> You must live in a dream land. I owned several Ford that have never
>> had a transmission problem and we serviced several thousands of Ford
>> fleet vehicles that were run too 300,000 miles, or more, and never had a
>> tranny problem.
>>
>> How many miles can one expect from one of the thousands of Toyotas with
>> the "Gelling Problem," as Toyota refers to their engines that sludge up,
>> like the ones we had to replace?
>>
>>
>> "Toyota MDT in MO" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get real. Any car will easily run to 250,000 miles if given the
>>>> proper preventive maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> What happens in the real world is the longer one own a vehicle the more
>>>> poorly they have it maintained
>>>>
>>>> Look at corporate fleet vehicles that are run for five year or 300,000
>>>> miles because federal corporate deprecation tax laws. They are
>>>> extremely well maintained as a result
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Toyota MDT in MO" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems that pretty much describes Toyota owners as well. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Toyota MDT in MO" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HLS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I have said, I have owned two Passats, both really good cars.
>>>>>>>> My friends have
>>>>>>>> gotten some lemons. They cant seem to make either a good, or a
>>>>>>>> poor, product
>>>>>>>> consistently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I applaud your friends' thoughts! The problem is, I've never met
>>>>>>> anyone who didn't think their VW/Audi was the greatest thing ever or
>>>>>>> at minimum a good solid car that was perfect for their needs. I
>>>>>>> guess they are the perfect cars to drive into the ground while never
>>>>>>> fixing anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Toyota MDT in MO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Toyota owners are known to perform regular maintenance on their cars
>>>>> much better than many other makes' owners. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Toyota MDT in MO
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The only thing I'm failing at is responding to a premier 'too much time
>>> on his hands' kinda troll. Firstly, prove me wrong about Toyota owners
>>> taking care of their cars more thoroughly compared to most other makes'
>>> owners, then explain how your contention, (though not strictly true)
>>> "any car will easily run to 250,000 miles if given the proper preventive
>>> maintenance" refutes my last post, and finally explain how the
>>> makes/models I've mentioned in the past as being more trouble prone
>>> major expenditures is flawed. How many transmission overhauls are
>>> acceptable within the first 100k miles, Ford and Chrysler? LOL
>>>
>>> --
>>> Toyota MDT in MO
>>
>>
>>
>
> Dear 'too much time',
>
> about 1,000,000 miles. Thank you for your interest in the durability of
> superior Toyota engines. LOL
>
> --
> Toyota MDT in MO

> I purchased seven Toyotas and six Lexus' in my time till I finally realized
> they were no better or worse than other brands I have owned, just more
> expensive to buy and maintain. *Since I switched to domestic brands I have
> saved thousand of dollar on the purchase price and hundred of dollars on
> maintenance costs.

ELEVEN cars? Holy crap man.

I have never once purchased a domestic car. I watched my folks go
through the "American car" routine by way of a Chevy citation and two
Ford Tauruses. Every one of them was a complete piece of crap.
Actually, crap isn't the best word for it but there might be kids
listening.....

Now since you proclaim your loyalty to buying domestic
brands.....you'll have to tell me...what do you consider to be a
domestic car? A Toyota that is built in Kentucky, a KIA built in
Georgia, or a Chevy made in Canada, or a Dodge made in Mexico?

Best,

Chris

Hal wrote:
>> I purchased seven Toyotas and six Lexus' in my time till I finally realized
>> they were no better or worse than other brands I have owned, just more
>> expensive to buy and maintain. Since I switched to domestic brands I have
>> saved thousand of dollar on the purchase price and hundred of dollars on
>> maintenance costs.
>>
>
> ELEVEN cars? Holy crap man.
>
> I have never once purchased a domestic car. I watched my folks go
> through the "American car" routine by way of a Chevy citation and two
> Ford Tauruses. Every one of them was a complete piece of crap.
> Actually, crap isn't the best word for it but there might be kids
> listening.....
>
> Now since you proclaim your loyalty to buying domestic
> brands.....you'll have to tell me...what do you consider to be a
> domestic car? A Toyota that is built in Kentucky, a KIA built in
> Georgia, or a Chevy made in Canada, or a Dodge made in Mexico?
>
> Best,
>
> Chris
>

Please be prepared for the "Ya' right. LOL" response that
signifies Mike as one of the premier debaters on usenet.

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Toyota MDT in MO

To me a domestic vehicle is one that is built in north America by and
American Corporation, using mostly parts and MATERIALS purchased from
American corporations.

A non-domestic vehicle IMO is one that is either imported or merely
assembled in north American by a foreign corporation that primarily uses
parts and MATERIALS that are either imported or supplied by other foreign
corporations, rather than north American parts and MATERIALS purchase from
American corporations, like those vehicles you mention.

Particularly onerous are those sold in the US by Japanese corporations who
take all of the profits, earned on what they sell in the US, back to Japan
US federal Corporate tax free.


.. "Hal" > wrote in message
...
> I purchased seven Toyotas and six Lexus' in my time till I finally
> realized
> they were no better or worse than other brands I have owned, just more
> expensive to buy and maintain. Since I switched to domestic brands I have
> saved thousand of dollar on the purchase price and hundred of dollars on
> maintenance costs.

ELEVEN cars? Holy crap man.

I have never once purchased a domestic car. I watched my folks go
through the "American car" routine by way of a Chevy citation and two
Ford Tauruses. Every one of them was a complete piece of crap.
Actually, crap isn't the best word for it but there might be kids
listening.....

Now since you proclaim your loyalty to buying domestic
brands.....you'll have to tell me...what do you consider to be a
domestic car? A Toyota that is built in Kentucky, a KIA built in
Georgia, or a Chevy made in Canada, or a Dodge made in Mexico?

Best,

Chris

> To me a domestic vehicle is one that is built in north America by and
> American Corporation, using mostly parts and MATERIALS purchased from
> American corporations.

Good lucking finding a car that meets your criteria. Name one. I dare
you. Hint: It isn't one of the cars you own now.


> A non-domestic vehicle IMO is one that is either imported or merely
> assembled in north American by a foreign corporation that primarily uses
> parts and MATERIALS that are either imported or supplied by other foreign
> corporations, rather than north American parts and MATERIALS purchase from
> American corporations, like those vehicles you mention.

Are you serious? You need to go re-read the window sticker on your
multitude of cars.

> Particularly onerous are those sold in the US by Japanese corporations who
> take all of the profits, earned on what they sell in the US, back to Japan
> US federal Corporate tax free.

You know what the real problem is here? It isn't the fact that you
didn't even bother to read my original post(read it again, you didn't
have 11 cars, you had 13....). It's obvious that basic math escapes
you.

GM, Ford, and Chrysler are marketing cars that they want to sell.
Toyota, Honda, Kia, Hyundai, and the rest of the imports are marketing
cars that people want to BUY. There's a big distinction there; you can
draw the line of differentiation between the companies begging for a
bailout, on on my dime I might add, versus the companies that are
selling cars without that flaming socialist ass hat Obama giving my
money to them.

You can take your opinion and shove it, guy. You're so full of it your
eyes are brown. Wake up and smell the coffee, your domestic car is
anything but.....

Best,

Chris

Hal wrote:
>
>
> You know what the real problem is here? It isn't the fact that you
> didn't even bother to read my original post(read it again, you didn't
> have 11 cars, you had 13....). It's obvious that basic math escapes
> you.
>
>

So that was a trick? I was thinking that *you* had math difficulties :-)

Mike makes many claims that are hard to believe, but I'm sure they are
all true.

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Toyota MDT in MO

> > didn't even bother to read my original post(read it again, you didn't
> > have 11 cars, you had 13....). It's obvious that basic math escapes
> > you.
>
> So that was a trick? *I was thinking that *you* had math difficulties :-)

Indeed it was. Further, the Kia plant in Georgia isn't even open yet.
The guy doesn't read or comprehend before responding, he just throws
out his view as being the almighty correct one without bothering to
get the facts straight.

> Mike makes many claims that are hard to believe, but I'm sure they are
> all true.

No arguments on that here.

Best,

Chris

"Mike" > wrote in
:

> Sorry, none of my collector cars are for sale.
>
> Actually Ford introduce the Mustang in late April of 1963 and referred
> to it as a the "All new "1963 1/2 Mustang."
>
>
> I traded a 1963 Falcon Sprint convertible and gave the dealer $560,
> including taxes and fees.
> The difference in the MSRP of the two was a bit over $300.
>
> The VIN is indeed 1964 but my Pennsylvania title says "1963 Ford
> Coupe," as PA called all convertibles at the time. Back in the day
> PA titled cars in the year they were first titled.
>
> As an aside, I have won quite a few bets with guys that say there is
> no 1963 Mustang, when I produce the title at car shows.
>



http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=17987

Excerpt from above:
"The story details Mustang's famed world introduction at the 1964 World's
Fair in New York [April '64] as Mustang #1 travels the Canadian landscape
on a public relations tour. Then the unexplicable - the car accidentally
falls into the hands of an airplane pilot who, unaware of the car's
significance, drives it for two years and more than 10,000 miles before
Ford exchanges another milestone Mustang for it"

More from about half-way down that page:
"While the public first saw the car on April 17, the first production
models rolled off the assembly line in early March since dealers needed to
stock showrooms to capitalize on the upcoming national reveal. The vehicle
identification number (VIN) for the first-ever Mustang was 5F08F100001,"

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Tegger