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Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem



 
 
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Old April 5th 14, 08:04 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
Ivan Vegvary[_2_]
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

Background: Car ran fine, but needed the knock sensors replaced. (turned out that mice had chewed through all the wires under the intake manifold, where the sensors are located).

Installed the sensors, new sensor wiring harness, and mended either the crankshaft, or the camshaft positioner sensor wire that had also been chewed through. This was a connector with a single wire only.

Put everything back together, hooked up the battery, tried to start the car and I immediately hear a "click" and everything went dead. No headlights, no horn, no dash lights etc. Power seat works.

Note that the battery has been disconnected for at least 10 days while I've been working on the truck and waiting for parts.

Is this an "anti-theft" issue since the battery has been disconnected for so long?

Is there a breaker under the dash (or somewhere) that tripped?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Ivan Vegvary
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Old April 5th 14, 09:27 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
Steve W.[_6_]
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Background: Car ran fine, but needed the knock sensors replaced.
> (turned out that mice had chewed through all the wires under the
> intake manifold, where the sensors are located).
>
> Installed the sensors, new sensor wiring harness, and mended either
> the crankshaft, or the camshaft positioner sensor wire that had also
> been chewed through. This was a connector with a single wire only.
>
> Put everything back together, hooked up the battery, tried to start
> the car and I immediately hear a "click" and everything went dead.
> No headlights, no horn, no dash lights etc. Power seat works.
>
> Note that the battery has been disconnected for at least 10 days
> while I've been working on the truck and waiting for parts.
>
> Is this an "anti-theft" issue since the battery has been disconnected
> for so long?
>
> Is there a breaker under the dash (or somewhere) that tripped?
>
> Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
>
> Ivan Vegvary


Sounds like the mice did some more damage. The no start sounds like
either a bad fuse or bad connection.
Single wire sensor wouldn't be cam or crank sensor. Could be temp or
knock sensor though.

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Old April 5th 14, 09:43 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
Ivan Vegvary[_2_]
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

Thanks Steve W.
The paradox is that the car ran fine until I decided to dig into the knock sensor issue.
Ivan Vegvary
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Old April 6th 14, 12:41 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Ivan Vegvary[_2_]
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

Waited a few hours and the electrical system is back on. Headlights, instrument panel etc. all on. When turning the key to start "click" and system is again dead. Suspect 'theft deterrent' system. Had major problems before.
Next time system comes back on I will try to read codes prior to trying to start.
Ivan Vegvary
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Old April 6th 14, 01:25 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT), Ivan Vegvary
> wrote:

>Waited a few hours and the electrical system is back on. Headlights, instrument panel etc. all on. When turning the key to start "click" and system is again dead. Suspect 'theft deterrent' system. Had major problems before.
>Next time system comes back on I will try to read codes prior to trying to start.
>Ivan Vegvary


You sure you don't have a loose connection with a fusible link at the
starter, or a junction block, or near one of the battery cables? When
this happens, turn the key on, turn the wipers on, and then start
moving wires around, including by the starter. When the wipers start
moving, you're in the right area.
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Old April 6th 14, 01:45 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Paul in Houston TX
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Waited a few hours and the electrical system is back on. Headlights, instrument panel etc. all on. When turning the key to start "click" and system is again dead. Suspect 'theft deterrent' system. Had major problems before.
> Next time system comes back on I will try to read codes prior to trying to start.
> Ivan Vegvary


I suspect a bad battery or dirty battery terminals.
Jump the battery and see.
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Old April 6th 14, 01:58 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Steve W.[_6_]
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Waited a few hours and the electrical system is back on. Headlights,
> instrument panel etc. all on. When turning the key to start "click"
> and system is again dead. Suspect 'theft deterrent' system. Had
> major problems before. Next time system comes back on I will try to
> read codes prior to trying to start. Ivan Vegvary


That isn't how the anti-theft operates. Everything will work but it
shuts off the fuel pump and ignition and the starter is taken off line.

It sounds more like a bad connection or bad battery.

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Old April 6th 14, 02:01 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Steve W.[_6_]
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Thanks Steve W.
> The paradox is that the car ran fine until I decided to dig into the knock sensor issue.
> Ivan Vegvary


Did you damage the ground wire at the rear of the head Or perhaps it has
rotted off?

Take a set of jumper cables and connect the ground from the battery to
the block.



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Old April 6th 14, 04:54 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Ivan Vegvary[_2_]
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Default Chevy 5.3 liter no-start problem

On Saturday, April 5, 2014 5:58:58 PM UTC-7, Steve W. wrote:
> Ivan Vegvary wrote:
>
> > Waited a few hours and the electrical system is back on. Headlights,

>
> > instrument panel etc. all on. When turning the key to start "click"

>
> > and system is again dead. Suspect 'theft deterrent' system. Had

>
> > major problems before. Next time system comes back on I will try to

>
> > read codes prior to trying to start. Ivan Vegvary

>
>
>
> That isn't how the anti-theft operates. Everything will work but it
>
> shuts off the fuel pump and ignition and the starter is taken off line.
>
>
>
> It sounds more like a bad connection or bad battery.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Steve W.


Okay, finally after 6 hours, everything has reset. Decided to read codes before trying to start. No codes were shown. Had friend stand at the windshield and tried to start the truck. Same results but he confirmed that the loud click is coming from the engine side of the firewall. Everything dead again.

BUT, will try my battery connection again. It is the only part of the electrical circuit I played with upon disassembly. (removed the negative battery cable). All other things I unplugged were sensors and the connectors to the fuel injectors. Will report back in the morning.

Thank you everybody for the suggestions. Very kind of you.

Ivan Vegvary
 




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