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  #31  
Old December 18th 04, 02:15 PM
Peter D. Hipson
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To jump in, and repeat what others are going to say, 1/2" should not
cause any problems. It will allow you to go a bit further before
adding oil, if you had to add oil before.

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:16:35 -0500, "Spiderman"
> wrote:

>
>""Doc"" > wrote in message
>news
>>
>> "Spiderman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>> How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
>>>>
>>>> Doc
>>>
>>> I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
>>> ride up the stem of the dipstick.

>>
>> Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
>> far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".
>>
>> Doc

>
>
>Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc?
>


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  #32  
Old December 18th 04, 03:47 PM
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"Peter D. Hipson" > wrote in message
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> To jump in, and repeat what others are going to say, 1/2" should not
> cause any problems. It will allow you to go a bit further before
> adding oil, if you had to add oil before.
>


Exactly! And think about this guys, the accuracy that the dip stick tube is
press into the block is probably +/- 0.035" and the tolerance on the dip
stick pressed into the handle is probably about the same. So right off the
bat a Friday or Monday car is 0.070" off location to begin with. Grant it
that's not that much but it just shows that this method of fluid checking
isn't that accurate or does it need to be.
After all if you drive up hill, down hill, or around corners the level
changes all the time anyway.

Brian


  #33  
Old December 18th 04, 04:44 PM
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"el Diablo" > wrote in message
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> "Peter D. Hipson" > wrote in

message
> ...
> > To jump in, and repeat what others are going to say, 1/2" should not
> > cause any problems. It will allow you to go a bit further before
> > adding oil, if you had to add oil before.
> >

>
> Exactly! And think about this guys, the accuracy that the dip stick tube

is
> press into the block is probably +/- 0.035" and the tolerance on the dip
> stick pressed into the handle is probably about the same. So right off the
> bat a Friday or Monday car is 0.070" off location to begin with. Grant it
> that's not that much but it just shows that this method of fluid checking
> isn't that accurate or does it need to be.
> After all if you drive up hill, down hill, or around corners the level
> changes all the time anyway.
>
> Brian


Plus, some 'flat' surfaces where people check the dipstick are not entirely
flat so the reading can be slightly off.

I've also intentionally overfilled (slightly) cars that use/burn/leak oil in
the past. It reduces the much greater risk of damage from having too little
oil, and I never saw any problems from it.

-John


  #34  
Old December 18th 04, 05:21 PM
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Personally, I'd just climb underneath and let some of the extra oil out. But, if
you have an aversion to getting under there and making a mess, there may be a
simpler solution....

To change the oil in my inboard-outboard boat, I pump it out through the
dipstick. That's the way it's done in boats. So, you could drop by your local
boating store and pick up a pump for $20 or less. Pump the extra half-quart out
and save it for later. No mess, and you'll have a handly little pump left over
that you can use for something else in the future. Personally, I've never done
this on an automobile, so take this advice with a grain of salt.... Just make
sure the tubing used on the pump will fit into your dipstick tube.



In article >, Spiderman says...
>
>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
>on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
>charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
>assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
>warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
>engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
>assume the excess will just drip out?
>
>


  #35  
Old December 18th 04, 05:51 PM
Oliver B. Lafferty
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Lots of answers to this, but no one mentioned that the right way to do
this is to change your oil and filter yourself and avoid overtightened
'stripped out' or 'not tightened' pan plugs. Go by the book and put
THAT amount in, and use the dipstick as a guide only for topping off
later. I say go by the book, because I worked on one vehicle that had
the wrong dipstick in it, and you might be surprised how often the
'right' dipstick can be off at least half an inch.
Changing oil is not a big deal and is cheaper, quicker and safer than
having a mentally challenged garage helper do it.

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:13:58 -0500, "Spiderman"
> wrote:

>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
>on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
>charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
>assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
>warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
>engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
>assume the excess will just drip out?
>
>


  #36  
Old December 18th 04, 07:11 PM
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:41:58 +0000 (UTC), "Toy"
> wrote:

>
>"Spiderman" > wrote in message
...
>>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>>change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off
>>the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
>>fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
>>fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been
>>thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
>>damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
>>

>
>f'in hell all this over a ****y drop to much and that guy that said drain it
>out and save it must be on skid row.
>
>toy
>


Look guy, I'm not saying his is over full to the point that it's a
problem. In fact, I'm inclined to believe the consensus on here that
a 1/2" above full on that engine is no big deal.

What I am saying, is that if the oil does get too far over filled,
that I have read that seals can be compromised. I am also saying,
that it is a very easy thing (for most guys) to let out a little
excess oil from the drain plug.

So putting it all together, on balance, myself I would just drain a
bit off so that it was in the correct range on the dip stick. Then
nothing is left to any chance, and it isn't tough to make happen. But
it's a free country and everyone is entitled to their own judgement on
the matter.

  #37  
Old December 18th 04, 08:23 PM
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"Toy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Spiderman" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
> >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading

"off
> >the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
> >fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
> >fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has

been
> >thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
> >damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
> >

>
> f'in hell all this over a ****y drop to much and that guy that said drain

it
> out and save it must be on skid row.
>
> toy
>
>


This whole thread is commonly refered to as a "cluster ****" I'm not
refering to any particular poster but the thread as a whole. Poor Spiderman
has to wade through a mountain of misinformation to get a simple answer.
Too many people taking guesses without actually knowing the correct answer
to the simplest questions.
I'm not intending to insult anyone, everyone want's to help which can only
be good.

It's sort of like Kubbyk299 asking what the hose is on the coolant
reservoir, then going on to try and diagnose other peoples cooling problems
with wild guesses.

This is the nature of humans


  #38  
Old December 19th 04, 02:09 AM
Lawrence Glickman
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:23:59 -0500, "TaskMule"
> wrote:

>
>"Toy" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Spiderman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>> >change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading

>"off
>> >the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
>> >fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
>> >fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has

>been
>> >thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
>> >damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
>> >

>>
>> f'in hell all this over a ****y drop to much and that guy that said drain

>it
>> out and save it must be on skid row.
>>
>> toy
>>
>>

>
>This whole thread is commonly refered to as a "cluster ****" I'm not
>refering to any particular poster but the thread as a whole. Poor Spiderman
>has to wade through a mountain of misinformation to get a simple answer.
>Too many people taking guesses without actually knowing the correct answer
>to the simplest questions.
>I'm not intending to insult anyone, everyone want's to help which can only
>be good.
>
>It's sort of like Kubbyk299 asking what the hose is on the coolant
>reservoir, then going on to try and diagnose other peoples cooling problems
>with wild guesses.
>
>This is the nature of humans
>

TaskMule.
Some dipsticks ( not referring to anybody in particular here ), have
stamped on them DO NOT OVERFILL.

There just _has_ to be a reason for that don't you think ?

Now I'll be the first to admitt that a 1/2 quart *over* is no cause
for concern in a V6 or bigger, but it -could- be in a 4 banger.

The term the OP used was WAY OFF THE CHARTS.

Well, way off the charts means just that, that the top of the oil in
the crank case is too close to the crankshaft, or has immersed it
partially. This is NOT a good thing, for the reason I stated. You'll
end up pumping foam instead of oil. Air is NOT a recommended
lubricant in any Service Manual I've ever come across.

Regards,

Lg

  #39  
Old December 19th 04, 03:18 AM
Bob Truck
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I over filled my truck once...about one or two, yeah, I think two
tablespoons too much...just kept pushing the dipstick in, pull it out, wipe,
push it in, pull it out, wipe. It was an easy way to bring her back to
level. I bet you can eliminate that 1/2 inch in a day or two the same way.
(*wink*)

> wrote in message
...
> Personally, I'd just climb underneath and let some of the extra oil out.
> But, if
> you have an aversion to getting under there and making a mess, there may
> be a
> simpler solution....
>
> To change the oil in my inboard-outboard boat, I pump it out through the
> dipstick. That's the way it's done in boats. So, you could drop by your
> local
> boating store and pick up a pump for $20 or less. Pump the extra
> half-quart out
> and save it for later. No mess, and you'll have a handly little pump left
> over
> that you can use for something else in the future. Personally, I've never
> done
> this on an automobile, so take this advice with a grain of salt.... Just
> make
> sure the tubing used on the pump will fit into your dipstick tube.
>
>
>
> In article >, Spiderman says...
>>
>>I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
>>change
>>on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
>>charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid
>>(I
>>assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is
>>not
>>warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
>>engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
>>assume the excess will just drip out?
>>
>>

>



  #40  
Old December 19th 04, 03:45 AM
Lawrence Glickman
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:18:43 GMT, "Bob Truck"
> wrote:

>I over filled my truck once...


only once?
**** man, you're slackin off

>about one or two, yeah, I think two
>tablespoons too much...just kept pushing the dipstick in, pull it out, wipe,
>push it in, pull it out, wipe. It was an easy way to bring her back to
>level. I bet you can eliminate that 1/2 inch in a day or two the same way.
>(*wink*)


You're supposed to be in bed by 6pm. I'm going to tell your mommy.
Don't forget you have dress-rehersal for the Christmas play at your
elementary school tomorrow.

Lg

 




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