97 accord stick-no start?

Problem just started this winter. On cold mornings
it won't start, won't click even. All accessories
work fine.

If I play with the clutch pedal, shake the shifter,
eventually it starts normally so the battery and
solenoid must be fine.

It's a 5 speed, so I am working on the assumption
that it has to do with one of the switches at the
top of the clutch pedal.

I have played with the clutch-interlock switch
(topmost switch) and thought I had it fixed.
But when cold weather came back, same problem.

I have no idea what the second switch it for.

All help appreciated.

nick

nick wrote:
> Problem just started this winter. On cold mornings
> it won't start, won't click even. All accessories
> work fine.
>
> If I play with the clutch pedal, shake the shifter,
> eventually it starts normally so the battery and
> solenoid must be fine.
>
> It's a 5 speed, so I am working on the assumption
> that it has to do with one of the switches at the
> top of the clutch pedal.
>
> I have played with the clutch-interlock switch
> (topmost switch) and thought I had it fixed.
> But when cold weather came back, same problem.
>
> I have no idea what the second switch it for.
>
> All help appreciated.
>
> nick
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Second switch is for your brake lights, I think. www.slhondaparts has
your diagrams and part numbers.

For a '97 with unknown mileage, you need to read up on starters:

http://www.hondasuv.com/members/show...anded+solenoid

The wiggling around and pumping the clutch may be equal to the 'tapping'
of the hatchet. Follow the links in the thread too.

'Curly'

motsco_ wrote:

> For a '97 with unknown mileage, you need to read up on starters:
>
> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/show...anded+solenoid
>
>
> The wiggling around and pumping the clutch may be equal to the 'tapping'
> of the hatchet. Follow the links in the thread too.
>
> 'Curly'

Thanks Curly. It's a 97 Accord LX with only about 65K miles and on
it's second battery. I do now get a loud click but no start below
maybe 40 degrees. I had already tried tapping the solenoid and the
clutch interlock switch. Probably the solenoid then??

nick

nick wrote:
> motsco_ wrote:
>
>> For a '97 with unknown mileage, you need to read up on starters:
>>
>> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/show...anded+solenoid
>>
>>
>> The wiggling around and pumping the clutch may be equal to the
>> 'tapping' of the hatchet. Follow the links in the thread too.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
> Thanks Curly. It's a 97 Accord LX with only about 65K miles and on
> it's second battery. I do now get a loud click but no start below
> maybe 40 degrees. I had already tried tapping the solenoid and the
> clutch interlock switch. Probably the solenoid then??
>
> nick
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Follow the links in that 'hatchet' thread and look at the replaceable
contacts in the solenoid. If the solenoid clicks but doesn't spin the
starter, those could be shot (although your mileage is terribly low).

Ever cleaned your grounding point of your battery's black wire?

'Curly'

Rick Frazier wrote:

> Kinda doubt it. Would be silly to have brake lights come on every time
> you shifted... On the other hand, if you have cruise control, it's
> almost certain it's the cruise disable switch. You definitely want
> cruise to drop out if you depress the clutch pedal. Some cars use the
> same switch for starter interlock and cruise disable.
>
> [smile]
> --Rick

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Hey, Rick . . . But wouldn't it make those pesky TAILGATERS nervous??
Sorry, it's hard for us automatic guys think MANUAL tranny / clutch. I
guess the parts diagrams at www.slhondaparts.com will confirm your
suggestion.

'Curly'

My 98 was involved in a ignition switch recall, due
to contacts not heavy enough to current the current.
I don't know if 97s where involved in that also.
Just a thought.

Bumpy wrote:
> My 98 was involved in a ignition switch recall, due
> to contacts not heavy enough to current the current.
> I don't know if 97s where involved in that also.
> Just a thought.

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The RECALL NOTICES are here, check it out:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/index.html#list

'Curly'

Bumpy wrote:
> My 98 was involved in a ignition switch recall, due
> to contacts not heavy enough to current the current.
> I don't know if 97s where involved in that also.
> Just a thought.
>
>
Yeah, I believe mine was replaced in that recall. What
has me curious is that it only seems to be a problem
when its below, say, 50 degrees. And if I do get it started,
and let it warm up a bunch, it seems to be ok as well.

When it won't turn over, I DO get a solenoid click. Would that
not imply that the switch is ok but the solenoid/starter is
at fault??

nick wrote:
> Yeah, I believe mine (ignition switch) was replaced in that recall. What
> has me curious is that it only seems to be a problem
> when its below, say, 50 degrees. And if I do get it started,
> and let it warm up a bunch, it seems to be ok as well.
>
> When it won't turn over, I DO get a solenoid click. Would that
> not imply that the switch is ok but the solenoid/starter is
> at fault??

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What do you mean, 'let it warm up a bunch'? Like on the driveway?

'Curly'

On 12/18/07 12:35 PM, in article qpU9j.36279$D44.20155@trnddc04, "nick"
> wrote:

> motsco_ wrote:
>
>> For a '97 with unknown mileage, you need to read up on starters:
>>
>> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/show...t=stranded+sol
>> enoid
>>
>>
>> The wiggling around and pumping the clutch may be equal to the 'tapping'
>> of the hatchet. Follow the links in the thread too.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
> Thanks Curly. It's a 97 Accord LX with only about 65K miles and on
> it's second battery. I do now get a loud click but no start below
> maybe 40 degrees. I had already tried tapping the solenoid and the
> clutch interlock switch. Probably the solenoid then??
>
> nick

If you are still on only the second battery, I would take that battery and
get it checked before messing with anything else. I have experienced
batteries on the way out that had just enough power to make the solenoid
click.