Pigs harassing innocent motorists again...

"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
> Cory Dunkle wrote:
> > "John David Galt" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Cory Dunkle wrote:
> >>>The cop then settled in to a safe following distance behind the LLB.
The
> >>>right lane merged into the middle lane to form one lane ahead and that
> >>>caused a little slowdown in the middle lane (the lane I was in). The
> > result
> >>>was me driving alongside the cop at his speed for a little while. The
> > cop
> >>>then decides to tailgate the LLB, within about 3-4 feet of his bumper
> > (doing
> >>>50 MPH or so). Cop would back off a little to maybe 6 feet and then
> > close it
> >>>up to a couple feet again. Finally up ahead a light turns yellow. Guy
in
> >>>front of me decides to pass through even though he had plenty more than
> >>>enough room to comfortably stop. The LLB enters the intersection as the
> >>>light turns red, and the cop follows him through a couple feet off his
> >>>bumper. I stop at the light and observe the cop tailgate the LLB until
I
> >
> > can
> >
> >>>no longer see them.
> >>
> >> This part I can't find fault with. Any normal, rightful driver does
this
> >> when blocked by an LLB. But it's too bad he didn't just pull over the
> >> LLB.
>
> > Then you too, are a truly unsafe driver and should be off the roads. If
you
> > can't find fault with tailgating someone, riding 3 feet off their bumper
at
> > speeds of 45-55 MPH then there is definitely a problem with your thought
> > process. It doesn't matter what the person being tailgated was doing,
you
> > should not endanger peoples lives and/or property over it.
>
> BS. It is perfectly rightful to use force to take what's yours. All the
> more if you're a cop.

Force? Perhaps, that depends on the situation (and driving your automobile
and happening upon someone impeding your desired rate of speed is not one of
them). There is nothing of yours that anyone took. I agree force is
justified if someone is attempting to take your property, or has already
taken it. However, in this situation no property has been taken and these
are _PUBLIC_ roads. If you can't responsibly deal with the varying
conditions on publics roads in a mature and safe manner then don't drive on
them.

Anyhow, recklessly endangering the lives and property of many motorists (not
just your own and the person you are recklessly tailgating) is totally
immature and reckless. Maybe when you grow up you'll get a more realistic
view on thigns and come around. Until then, thank goodness you don't live in
south Jersey so neither myself or my loved ones have to be at risk from your
reckless driving.

Furthermore, being a cop has nothing to do with teh right to take what is
yours. It doesn't matter if someone stole your property and your a cop or
anyone else. You have a right to use whatever force is necessary to get your
property back. There is nothing that makes cops so holy or special. They are
public servants who more often than not neglect to do their job. Beyond that
though, in this particular instance the LLB was breaking the law and driving
dangerously. The only reason for that person to be in the left lane is to
pass someone or if he/she was going to turn left. Neither of those cases
occured over the course of several miles. Instead of recklessly endangering
many motorists lives and property the cop could have simply stopped the LLB,
ticketed him/her, told him/her not do to it again, and both would ahve been
on their way without endangering anyone more than the LLB already had. It is
a simple and safe solution that actually gets somewhere. There is actual
communication occuring too, which will help the LLB to understand what
exactly it was that he/she was doing wrong.

Cory

>> BS. It is perfectly rightful to use force to take what's yours. All the
>> more if you're a cop.

> Force? Perhaps, that depends on the situation (and driving your automobile
> and happening upon someone impeding your desired rate of speed is not one of
> them). There is nothing of yours that anyone took.

His right to continue driving fast without interference (right of way) is
exactly that thing.

>> BS. It is perfectly rightful to use force to take what's yours. All the
>> more if you're a cop.

> Force? Perhaps, that depends on the situation (and driving your automobile
> and happening upon someone impeding your desired rate of speed is not one of
> them). There is nothing of yours that anyone took.

His right to continue driving fast without interference (right of way) is
exactly that thing.

"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
> >> BS. It is perfectly rightful to use force to take what's yours. All
the
> >> more if you're a cop.
>
> > Force? Perhaps, that depends on the situation (and driving your
automobile
> > and happening upon someone impeding your desired rate of speed is not
one of
> > them). There is nothing of yours that anyone took.
>
> His right to continue driving fast without interference (right of way) is
> exactly that thing.

Nice how you snipped out the whole bit about how it's not your right to
recklessly endanger the lives and property of tens of motorists other than
the LLB or tailgater. Whichever way you slice it, tailagating is reckless
and unsafe. If you want to recklessly endanger your own life and property go
ahed and do that. Do not recklessly endanger anyone else (even if they are
inconveniencing you), much less the tens of people who are driving
alongside/behind/around you. You have expressed a very immature MFFY
attitude.

I suggest you take some time to re-think your 'logic' from a less selfish
point of view, and perhaps a more productive one. The proper, appropriate,
and safe thing to do when behind an LLB is to first use your left turn
signal. I find that about half of the LLBs I encounter will move over
shortly after I use my turn signal. If that does not get their attention
flash your lights and/or high beams while using your left turn signal. If
that does not work proceed to use the horn in conjunction with your left
turn signal.

Cory

"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
> >> BS. It is perfectly rightful to use force to take what's yours. All
the
> >> more if you're a cop.
>
> > Force? Perhaps, that depends on the situation (and driving your
automobile
> > and happening upon someone impeding your desired rate of speed is not
one of
> > them). There is nothing of yours that anyone took.
>
> His right to continue driving fast without interference (right of way) is
> exactly that thing.

Nice how you snipped out the whole bit about how it's not your right to
recklessly endanger the lives and property of tens of motorists other than
the LLB or tailgater. Whichever way you slice it, tailagating is reckless
and unsafe. If you want to recklessly endanger your own life and property go
ahed and do that. Do not recklessly endanger anyone else (even if they are
inconveniencing you), much less the tens of people who are driving
alongside/behind/around you. You have expressed a very immature MFFY
attitude.

I suggest you take some time to re-think your 'logic' from a less selfish
point of view, and perhaps a more productive one. The proper, appropriate,
and safe thing to do when behind an LLB is to first use your left turn
signal. I find that about half of the LLBs I encounter will move over
shortly after I use my turn signal. If that does not get their attention
flash your lights and/or high beams while using your left turn signal. If
that does not work proceed to use the horn in conjunction with your left
turn signal.

Cory

Cory Dunkle wrote:
> Nice how you snipped out the whole bit about how it's not your right to
> recklessly endanger the lives and property of tens of motorists other than
> the LLB or tailgater.

Tailgating does no such thing, ever, and you know it.

Cory Dunkle wrote:
> Nice how you snipped out the whole bit about how it's not your right to
> recklessly endanger the lives and property of tens of motorists other than
> the LLB or tailgater.

Tailgating does no such thing, ever, and you know it.

Cory Dunkle wrote:
> "John David Galt" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Cory Dunkle wrote:
> > > Saw this yesterday on Rt. 70 in NJ. I am cruising along in the
middle
> lane,
> > > passing traffic to my right. I approach a cop in right lane.
First the
> cop
> > > tries cutting me off by attempting to pull out in front of me
when there
> is
> > > no room for him to do so, without even suing a turn signal of
course.
> Cop
> > > decides that's a bad idea halfway into my lane as he realizes I'm
not
> gonna
> > > slow down on account of him when I'm already halfway past him.
> > >
> > > After I pass him the cop pulls out behind me, then isn't
satisfied with
> the
> > > speed I'm going, so tailgates me a bit. I don't go any faster,
just
> maintain
> > > my speed passing traffic in the right lane, all the while keeping
my eye
> on
> > > a LLB in the passing lane to my left. Timing couldn't be
better... Cop
> > > finally decides to pass me using the passing lane (duh!) only to
find a
> LLB
> > > in the lane, traveling slower than me. Seeing a gap between the
back of
> the
> > > LLB and the front of my car the cop decides to try to go for it.
I
> maintain
> > > my cruising speed, still passing traffic to my right, and close
up that
> gap.
> > > The cop tried to force his way in, but again, I didn't slow down
on
> account
> > > of him.
> >
> > What you've described so far is typical bad driving, but I wouldn't
call
> it
> > harassment since he didn't try to ticket you. I agree that if he
was in
> > enough of a hurry to violate right-of-way, he should start by
turning on
> his
> > roof lights.
>
> I never said anything about myself beinmg harassed. I would have
thought it
> was quite obvious I was referring to the person being tailagated at
> extremely close distances.
>
> > > The cop then settled in to a safe following distance behind the
LLB. The
> > > right lane merged into the middle lane to form one lane ahead and
that
> > > caused a little slowdown in the middle lane (the lane I was in).
The
> result
> > > was me driving alongside the cop at his speed for a little while.
The
> cop
> > > then decides to tailgate the LLB, within about 3-4 feet of his
bumper
> (doing
> > > 50 MPH or so). Cop would back off a little to maybe 6 feet and
then
> close it
> > > up to a couple feet again. Finally up ahead a light turns yellow.
Guy in
> > > front of me decides to pass through even though he had plenty
more than
> > > enough room to comfortably stop. The LLB enters the intersection
as the
> > > light turns red, and the cop follows him through a couple feet
off his
> > > bumper. I stop at the light and observe the cop tailgate the LLB
until I
> can
> > > no longer see them.
> >
> > This part I can't find fault with. Any normal, rightful driver
does this
> > when blocked by an LLB. But it's too bad he didn't just pull over
the
> LLB.
>
> Then you too, are a truly unsafe driver and should be off the roads.
If you
> can't find fault with tailgating someone, riding 3 feet off their
bumper at
> speeds of 45-55 MPH then there is definitely a problem with your
thought
> process. It doesn't matter what the person being tailgated was doing,
you
> should not endanger peoples lives and/or property over it.

Hey numbnuts ... It's called "Keep Right Except To Pass." Just cause
you have a small wiener doesn't mean I don't have places to go. So do
us all a favor and keep your slow moving ass in the right lane. If you
can't follow simple instructions, could you at least off yourself.

Cory Dunkle wrote:
> "John David Galt" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Cory Dunkle wrote:
> > > Saw this yesterday on Rt. 70 in NJ. I am cruising along in the
middle
> lane,
> > > passing traffic to my right. I approach a cop in right lane.
First the
> cop
> > > tries cutting me off by attempting to pull out in front of me
when there
> is
> > > no room for him to do so, without even suing a turn signal of
course.
> Cop
> > > decides that's a bad idea halfway into my lane as he realizes I'm
not
> gonna
> > > slow down on account of him when I'm already halfway past him.
> > >
> > > After I pass him the cop pulls out behind me, then isn't
satisfied with
> the
> > > speed I'm going, so tailgates me a bit. I don't go any faster,
just
> maintain
> > > my speed passing traffic in the right lane, all the while keeping
my eye
> on
> > > a LLB in the passing lane to my left. Timing couldn't be
better... Cop
> > > finally decides to pass me using the passing lane (duh!) only to
find a
> LLB
> > > in the lane, traveling slower than me. Seeing a gap between the
back of
> the
> > > LLB and the front of my car the cop decides to try to go for it.
I
> maintain
> > > my cruising speed, still passing traffic to my right, and close
up that
> gap.
> > > The cop tried to force his way in, but again, I didn't slow down
on
> account
> > > of him.
> >
> > What you've described so far is typical bad driving, but I wouldn't
call
> it
> > harassment since he didn't try to ticket you. I agree that if he
was in
> > enough of a hurry to violate right-of-way, he should start by
turning on
> his
> > roof lights.
>
> I never said anything about myself beinmg harassed. I would have
thought it
> was quite obvious I was referring to the person being tailagated at
> extremely close distances.
>
> > > The cop then settled in to a safe following distance behind the
LLB. The
> > > right lane merged into the middle lane to form one lane ahead and
that
> > > caused a little slowdown in the middle lane (the lane I was in).
The
> result
> > > was me driving alongside the cop at his speed for a little while.
The
> cop
> > > then decides to tailgate the LLB, within about 3-4 feet of his
bumper
> (doing
> > > 50 MPH or so). Cop would back off a little to maybe 6 feet and
then
> close it
> > > up to a couple feet again. Finally up ahead a light turns yellow.
Guy in
> > > front of me decides to pass through even though he had plenty
more than
> > > enough room to comfortably stop. The LLB enters the intersection
as the
> > > light turns red, and the cop follows him through a couple feet
off his
> > > bumper. I stop at the light and observe the cop tailgate the LLB
until I
> can
> > > no longer see them.
> >
> > This part I can't find fault with. Any normal, rightful driver
does this
> > when blocked by an LLB. But it's too bad he didn't just pull over
the
> LLB.
>
> Then you too, are a truly unsafe driver and should be off the roads.
If you
> can't find fault with tailgating someone, riding 3 feet off their
bumper at
> speeds of 45-55 MPH then there is definitely a problem with your
thought
> process. It doesn't matter what the person being tailgated was doing,
you
> should not endanger peoples lives and/or property over it.

Hey numbnuts ... It's called "Keep Right Except To Pass." Just cause
you have a small wiener doesn't mean I don't have places to go. So do
us all a favor and keep your slow moving ass in the right lane. If you
can't follow simple instructions, could you at least off yourself.

"John David Galt" > wrote in message
...
> Cory Dunkle wrote:
> > Nice how you snipped out the whole bit about how it's not your right to
> > recklessly endanger the lives and property of tens of motorists other
than
> > the LLB or tailgater.
>
> Tailgating does no such thing, ever, and you know it.

You truly are dangerous. Hopefully some day you will grow up and come around
to common sense. For now though, have a look at the definition of
tailgating...

To drive so closely behind (another vehicle) that one cannot stop or swerve
with ease in an emergency.
or
To follow another vehicle too closely.

You are telling me that following 3 ft off a person bumper at 50 MPH is not
reckless and does nto endanger anyones life or property. You are downright
wrong. If the car being tailgated had to stop unexpectedly and quickly, not
necessarily even at the maximum capability of the car, the police car would
have hit him. 3 ft off a persons bumper and the eprson you're follwoing
slams on their brakes will not likely even give you enough time to process
what's happening and move your foot to the brake.

Cory