Best aftermarket theft deterrents?

Hi,
I had my '98 Civic EX stolen thursday night. The cops told me, based on
the number of Honda's stolen in my neighborhood in the past month, that
I should expect to never see it again. OK, so I'm starting over,
probably buying a similar late 90's Civic or Accord. I realize that if
they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
my best bets in terms of physical deterrents? I'm going to use some
sort of a Club-like device to lock the steering wheel and brake pedal,
but I am looking for another layer beyond that. I've heard about
"engine immobilizers" but I'm not having much luck finding any
aftermarket products of that type. I know I could do a kill switch but
I've been told that these are easy bypassed and don't do much (if
anything) to prevent hotwiring. Any advice is greatly appreciated. If
it makes any difference, I am located in the S.F. Bay Area (in case you
have specific vendor recommendations).

Thanks.

wrote:
> Hi,
> I had my '98 Civic EX stolen thursday night. The cops told me, based on
> the number of Honda's stolen in my neighborhood in the past month, that
> I should expect to never see it again. OK, so I'm starting over,
> probably buying a similar late 90's Civic or Accord. I realize that if
> they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
> my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?

seriously... get something no one would want to steal. not a POS, but
just something that isnt easily riced out. like a late80s/early 90s
civic wagovan 4 door hatch, or accord wagon. toyota echo? paseo?

something you can just have basic liability on, so you can save your
money until you can move into a better neighborhood.

why keep beating yourself in the face with a 2x4?

imleaning toward a scion xa, with a 1.5 ltr engine, factory alarm,
factory stereo. who knows... that might be a good target, but since its
based on the echo, i sure hope not. the xb is popular, the xa isnt.

physical deterrent? keep it stock, with an alarm and a hidden kill
switch for the fuel pump.

wrote:
> Hi,
> I had my '98 Civic EX stolen thursday night. The cops told me, based on
> the number of Honda's stolen in my neighborhood in the past month, that
> I should expect to never see it again. OK, so I'm starting over,
> probably buying a similar late 90's Civic or Accord. I realize that if
> they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
> my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?

seriously... get something no one would want to steal. not a POS, but
just something that isnt easily riced out. like a late80s/early 90s
civic wagovan 4 door hatch, or accord wagon. toyota echo? paseo?

something you can just have basic liability on, so you can save your
money until you can move into a better neighborhood.

why keep beating yourself in the face with a 2x4?

imleaning toward a scion xa, with a 1.5 ltr engine, factory alarm,
factory stereo. who knows... that might be a good target, but since its
based on the echo, i sure hope not. the xb is popular, the xa isnt.

physical deterrent? keep it stock, with an alarm and a hidden kill
switch for the fuel pump.

In article <SElod.70042$V41.66978@attbi_s52>,
says...
> I realize that if
> > they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
> > my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?
>
>
get a silent alarm system that sends a signal to a beeper you keep on
your person. You should have a good 10 minutes after the first beeper
to grab the glock and do a head shot, but be sure the guy is IN the car.
Good luck. It's called tough love. And sometimes these creeps just gotta
pay a high price. Before you do the head shot, yell at him, I LOVE YOU!
Check with the local cops, but I think it is all legal if he is in the
car. Kill these creeps, then they can't operate any more. Is it any big
loss? Hell no.

In article <SElod.70042$V41.66978@attbi_s52>,
says...
> I realize that if
> > they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
> > my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?
>
>
get a silent alarm system that sends a signal to a beeper you keep on
your person. You should have a good 10 minutes after the first beeper
to grab the glock and do a head shot, but be sure the guy is IN the car.
Good luck. It's called tough love. And sometimes these creeps just gotta
pay a high price. Before you do the head shot, yell at him, I LOVE YOU!
Check with the local cops, but I think it is all legal if he is in the
car. Kill these creeps, then they can't operate any more. Is it any big
loss? Hell no.

john wrote:
> In article <SElod.70042$V41.66978@attbi_s52>,
> says...
>
>> I realize that if
>>
>>>they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
>>>my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?
>>
>>
> get a silent alarm system that sends a signal to a beeper you keep on
> your person. You should have a good 10 minutes after the first beeper
> to grab the glock and do a head shot, but be sure the guy is IN the car.
> Good luck. It's called tough love. And sometimes these creeps just gotta
> pay a high price. Before you do the head shot, yell at him, I LOVE YOU!
> Check with the local cops, but I think it is all legal if he is in the
> car. Kill these creeps, then they can't operate any more. Is it any big
> loss? Hell no.


agreed, but i think thats only legal in texas

john wrote:
> In article <SElod.70042$V41.66978@attbi_s52>,
> says...
>
>> I realize that if
>>
>>>they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
>>>my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?
>>
>>
> get a silent alarm system that sends a signal to a beeper you keep on
> your person. You should have a good 10 minutes after the first beeper
> to grab the glock and do a head shot, but be sure the guy is IN the car.
> Good luck. It's called tough love. And sometimes these creeps just gotta
> pay a high price. Before you do the head shot, yell at him, I LOVE YOU!
> Check with the local cops, but I think it is all legal if he is in the
> car. Kill these creeps, then they can't operate any more. Is it any big
> loss? Hell no.


agreed, but i think thats only legal in texas

john wrote:
> In article <SElod.70042$V41.66978@attbi_s52>,
> says...
>
>> I realize that if
>>
>>>they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
>>>my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?
>>
>>
> get a silent alarm system that sends a signal to a beeper you keep on
> your person. You should have a good 10 minutes after the first beeper
> to grab the glock and do a head shot, but be sure the guy is IN the car.
> Good luck. It's called tough love. And sometimes these creeps just gotta
> pay a high price. Before you do the head shot, yell at him, I LOVE YOU!
> Check with the local cops, but I think it is all legal if he is in the
> car. Kill these creeps, then they can't operate any more. Is it any big
> loss? Hell no.

==================

Hey, John . . . Show some respect . . . Please put a CAPITAL 'G' on
GLOCK, OK?

Thanks,

'Curly'

john wrote:
> In article <SElod.70042$V41.66978@attbi_s52>,
> says...
>
>> I realize that if
>>
>>>they really want it, they'll get it no matter what I do, but what are
>>>my best bets in terms of physical deterrents?
>>
>>
> get a silent alarm system that sends a signal to a beeper you keep on
> your person. You should have a good 10 minutes after the first beeper
> to grab the glock and do a head shot, but be sure the guy is IN the car.
> Good luck. It's called tough love. And sometimes these creeps just gotta
> pay a high price. Before you do the head shot, yell at him, I LOVE YOU!
> Check with the local cops, but I think it is all legal if he is in the
> car. Kill these creeps, then they can't operate any more. Is it any big
> loss? Hell no.

==================

Hey, John . . . Show some respect . . . Please put a CAPITAL 'G' on
GLOCK, OK?

Thanks,

'Curly'

"SoCalMike" > wrote in message

>keep it stock, with an alarm and a hidden kill switch for the fuel pump.

Car stalls when switch fails. Instead, toggle switch ground (no more
than 6-amp) to (-) coil primary.

Rick