325 lock & window question

"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message > But, if you were
opening the windows using the keys, not the fob, then you
> would already be at the car to perform this operation, which would
diminish
> its usefulness. You could accomplish the same thing by leaving the door
open
> while you start the motor and open the windows before driving away with
the
> AC on high. Of course, if one was at the market, then open the door(s),
thel
> load the trunk, then start the motor and drive off. In any case, if the
key
> is the method used to open the windows, then the feature is of limited
> usefulness.
>
>
If, for some reason, the only key available was the spare plastic key, it
would seem to be useful. And the Owner's Manual says it should work, if
that means anything.
Ed

"Ed Presson" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message > But, if you were
> opening the windows using the keys, not the fob, then you
>> would already be at the car to perform this operation, which would
> diminish
>> its usefulness. You could accomplish the same thing by leaving the door
> open
>> while you start the motor and open the windows before driving away with
> the
>> AC on high. Of course, if one was at the market, then open the door(s),
> thel
>> load the trunk, then start the motor and drive off. In any case, if the
> key
>> is the method used to open the windows, then the feature is of limited
>> usefulness.
>>
>>
> If, for some reason, the only key available was the spare plastic key, it
> would seem to be useful. And the Owner's Manual says it should work, if
> that means anything.
> Ed
>
>

Why is it useful with the key at all?

I have to suggest that this feature is an Option, it is not necessarily a
feature you have. If the Owner's Manual shows the feature with an astrisk,
then it is an optional feature. If you have the feature, then you can access
it by holding the key for several seconds in the Unlock position before the
windows begin to open.

Having said that, it matters not what the available key set is, opening the
doors will allow the hot air to get out just as easily as opening the
windows. I submit that it takes longer to open windows with the key than to
simply open the door. The keey must be used to unlock the door, which can
then be opened, or the key must be held to the unlock position for many
seconds while the windows go down.

Opening the windows with the fob is arguably a very useful feature, but
opening the windows with the key is - in my opinion - not very useful at
all.

"Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Jeff Strickland > wrote:
> > Opening the windows with the fob is arguably a very useful feature, but
> > opening the windows with the key is - in my opinion - not very useful at
> > all.
>
> I used it often on a hot day on my E34 - and to open the sun roof. It was
> a black car and got unbearable after standing - even in London. Easier
> than switching on to use the window switches.
>


OK, I stand corrected.

I live in the desert region of Southern California, if ever there was a hot
car, I am sure I would have been inside it. My personal experience, derived
from 35 driving years, is that it is no problem to open the windows from the
inside and set the AC controls to High Speed.

If I had a key fob that could open the windows from the comfort of my
office, then that would be a very cool (no pun intended) feature. But I can
not fathom standing around outside my car waiting for the windows to go
down, when I could simply open the door and let the heat flood out. To be
honest, I also have a Jeep that has no doors or windows, and heat is a
problem even for the Jeep. So, I am well aware of what happens in hot
climates. Opening windows with the key is of dubious value at best. Trust me
on that.

In article >,
Jeff Strickland > wrote:
> > I used it often on a hot day on my E34 - and to open the sun roof. It
> > was a black car and got unbearable after standing - even in London.
> > Easier than switching on to use the window switches.
> >

> OK, I stand corrected.

> I live in the desert region of Southern California, if ever there was a
> hot car, I am sure I would have been inside it. My personal experience,
> derived from 35 driving years, is that it is no problem to open the
> windows from the inside and set the AC controls to High Speed.

You guys are obviously hard over there. ;-)

> If I had a key fob that could open the windows from the comfort of my
> office, then that would be a very cool (no pun intended) feature. But I
> can not fathom standing around outside my car waiting for the windows to
> go down, when I could simply open the door and let the heat flood out.

Perhaps you have no breeze in the desert region of Southern California?
In the UK, we usually do, so you'd be opening all the doors to get the
same effect - and in our narrow streets you'd find them removed by passing
traffic. ;-) And mums with pushchairs.

> To be honest, I also have a Jeep that has no doors or windows, and heat
> is a problem even for the Jeep. So, I am well aware of what happens in
> hot climates. Opening windows with the key is of dubious value at best.
> Trust me on that.

I've learned never to trust anyone, Jeff. ;-)

But I'm not in charge of the world and issuing an edict that everyone must
use this facility - merely saying where I use it. And now, with my E39,
via the remote. Oh - and also to get into the damned thing after the
handle broke. Now fixed. ;-)

--
*OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ed Presson" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message > But, if you were
> > opening the windows using the keys, not the fob, then you
> >> would already be at the car to perform this operation, which would
> > diminish
> >> its usefulness. You could accomplish the same thing by leaving the door
> > open
> >> while you start the motor and open the windows before driving away with
> > the
> >> AC on high. Of course, if one was at the market, then open the door(s),
> > thel
> >> load the trunk, then start the motor and drive off. In any case, if the
> > key
> >> is the method used to open the windows, then the feature is of limited
> >> usefulness.
> >>
> >>
> > If, for some reason, the only key available was the spare plastic key,
it
> > would seem to be useful. And the Owner's Manual says it should work, if
> > that means anything.
> > Ed
> >
> >
>
> Why is it useful with the key at all?
>
> I have to suggest that this feature is an Option, it is not necessarily a
> feature you have. If the Owner's Manual shows the feature with an astrisk,
> then it is an optional feature. If you have the feature, then you can
access
> it by holding the key for several seconds in the Unlock position before
the
> windows begin to open.
>
> Having said that, it matters not what the available key set is, opening
the
> doors will allow the hot air to get out just as easily as opening the
> windows. I submit that it takes longer to open windows with the key than
to
> simply open the door. The keey must be used to unlock the door, which can
> then be opened, or the key must be held to the unlock position for many
> seconds while the windows go down.
>
> Opening the windows with the fob is arguably a very useful feature, but
> opening the windows with the key is - in my opinion - not very useful at
> all.

You're hypothetically parked on the side of the street on a hot day. You
propose to open your door and leave it sitting open for some length of time
as traffic whizzes by, and eventually get in.

I'm hypothetically parked behind your. I put my key in the passenger
(sidewalk side) lock, drop all the windows. My alarm is still engaged. I
can load the trunk sit down, walk into the store for a chocolate bar, watch
your car get stolen by a passerby, or stare at the traffic going by, until
my car has had a chance to cool off, at which point I open the door, get in,
and drive off.

-Russ.