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red light cameras: products to avoid them??



 
 
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Old June 24th 05, 04:16 PM
Mike
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Hi All,
Anyone have experience with anti red light camera products?? Where can
I buy some???

Thanks!
-Mike

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Old June 24th 05, 04:39 PM
John S.
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The most effective anti-red light camera product I'm aware of is very
low cost, easy to apply and 100% effective:
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Just stop at the red light.

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Old June 24th 05, 04:54 PM
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Mike wrote:

> Hi All,
> Anyone have experience with anti red light camera products?? Where can
> I buy some???
>
> Thanks!
> -Mike


Have you tried the Malestrom G580 SignalMaster?

You could also try..

1. Anti red light camera lubricant
2. Anti red light camera air filters
3. Anti red light coolant
4. Anti red light spark plugs




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Old June 24th 05, 08:25 PM
Richard Bell
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In article . com>,
Mike > wrote:
>Hi All,
>Anyone have experience with anti red light camera products?? Where can
>I buy some???
>
>Thanks!
>-Mike
>


All that is needed to avoid getting dinged by red light cameras is to do
something about the loose nut behind the wheel.
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Old June 24th 05, 10:27 PM
Mike
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Har har, you guys are real funny. Maybe when you guys get a $75 ticket
for quote/unquote 'running' a red light by .2 seconds in the rain, I'll
help you figure out how to prevent it. Or maybe you have tons of money
to burn, and don't have to worry about incidents such as this.

Whatever, thanks for your help.

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Old June 25th 05, 02:26 AM
ed
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Theres a spray which makes your license plate super reflective whereas the
camera will blind itself from its own flash thus making your plate appear
washed out or overexposed.

I would think you could get the same reult from hi-gloss clear finish but
thats your decision.

Another product is a lens which covers your plate so it is visible straight
on but at angles parts of the numbers blacked out. I got a $50 ticket for
having this on my car fro obscuring my plate!.

In my city they have the yellow times set .1 second below federal guidelines
and a lot of us got off. The guidelines are 3.0-6.0 seconds of yellow time.

You wont get off the ticket even if you move out of the way of an ambulance.
Seen it.

You also should get used to the idea of making yellow your color of choice
for stopping in addition to red. Sure you'll get ass-ended one of these
times, but you'll not be at fault for stopping.

There are other products like a system that flashes back. The red light
camera guys have made flashless cameras to defeat all that.

You could program your GPS to remind you your approaching an intersection
with one of those cameras or learn to get good with a paintball gun.

good luck. I feel your pain!

"Mike" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Har har, you guys are real funny. Maybe when you guys get a $75 ticket
> for quote/unquote 'running' a red light by .2 seconds in the rain, I'll
> help you figure out how to prevent it. Or maybe you have tons of money
> to burn, and don't have to worry about incidents such as this.
>
> Whatever, thanks for your help.
>



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Old June 25th 05, 01:41 PM
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"Mike" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Har har, you guys are real funny. Maybe when you guys get a $75 ticket
> for quote/unquote 'running' a red light by .2 seconds in the rain, I'll
> help you figure out how to prevent it. Or maybe you have tons of money
> to burn, and don't have to worry about incidents such as this.
>
> Whatever, thanks for your help.
>


Just stop, you wont find anything fool proof.


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Old June 25th 05, 03:03 PM
Don Stauffer
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John S. wrote:
> The most effective anti-red light camera product I'm aware of is very
> low cost, easy to apply and 100% effective:
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> Just stop at the red light.
>



I sometimes wonder- this really is a democracy, at a local level. If we
did a survey on whether to repeal all traffic laws, what would the
result be? If we don't want to have traffic laws, why don't we just
tell our reps to get rid of them all? By far the majority of drivers
exceed the speed limits. Why to we bother to have them?

Or is the feeling that everyone but me should obey the rules, so we
still need them. Of course, everyone else is also a me.
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Old June 25th 05, 03:07 PM
Don Stauffer
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Mike wrote:
> Har har, you guys are real funny. Maybe when you guys get a $75 ticket
> for quote/unquote 'running' a red light by .2 seconds in the rain, I'll
> help you figure out how to prevent it. Or maybe you have tons of money
> to burn, and don't have to worry about incidents such as this.
>
> Whatever, thanks for your help.
>



Well, I've been driving for 49 years without a red light ticket. So I'd
say the odds of anyone getting one because of an unintentional slip up
are low. If the odds are one or two per lifetime, then 75 or 150
bucks, compared to other costs of a lifetime of driving are minor, and I
can sure live with it.

If you get LOTS of these tickets, I'd guess that there is a message there.
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Old June 25th 05, 04:08 PM
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Don Stauffer wrote:
>
> John S. wrote:
> > The most effective anti-red light camera product I'm aware of is very
> > low cost, easy to apply and 100% effective:
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Just stop at the red light.
> >

>
> I sometimes wonder- this really is a democracy, at a local level. If we
> did a survey on whether to repeal all traffic laws, what would the
> result be? If we don't want to have traffic laws, why don't we just
> tell our reps to get rid of them all? By far the majority of drivers
> exceed the speed limits. Why to we bother to have them?
>
> Or is the feeling that everyone but me should obey the rules, so we
> still need them. Of course, everyone else is also a me.



The biggest flaw I can see here is that people assume,
incorrectly I might add, that the yellow timing is set
to a safe number when red light cameras are install. The
fact is that there is a minimum and maximum timing allowed
by most state laws and ordinance/codes. Most traffic
engineers set the yellow time to around the middle of that
range, sometimes a slight bit to the longer side of the
middle. Why? It promotes safe driving. If the time is set
to the bare minimum then people will be more likely to slam
on their brakes on yellow and cause an accident. It also
promotes yellow light running because people will feel,
correctly, that there is likely to be much less time to
stop before the light turns red and they're more likely
to decide to try and beat the light instead.

Now, most red light camera programs in this country are
actually private affairs where the equipment maker offers
to come set up the hundreds of thousands of dollars of
cameras and recording equipment for free, for a cut of
the ticket profits. To maximise their profits, the equipment
maker has the city sign a legally binding contract that orders
the city traffic engineers to turn the yellow light timing
down to the minimum allowed by law/code/ordinance. This
ensures that the most number of people will get caught in
the intersection when the light turns red, by minimizing the
time that drivers have to react and stop.

Now, there's a clear conflict of interest here between
safety and corporate profits. To me, it should seem that
safety needs to always win out. Because cities that promote
dangerous driving and increased accidents are not cities
that I want to drive in, I specifically avoid driving in
or through any cities that enact red light camera systems,
and I send letters to retailers and the city explaining
why I choose to no longer shop in or visit their city.

JazzMan
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