SRS light on: Is this a warranty item on an out of warranty car?

I have a 2000 Accord EX 6 cyl. with 62,000 miles on it. My SRS light
came on a few days ago. I took it to my local Honda shop (not the
dealer). Their diagnostics test showed: "Code 09-3 Driver's Seat
Belt Switch Failure. Suggest return to dealer for check out under
Honda Warranty."

Now I don't have extended warranty, but aren't the seatbelts warranted
for 10 years or the life of the vehicle? And if so, would that extend
to this light coming on?

The bottom line question, of course, is when I take it to the dealer,
should they charge me for fixing this?

Thanks,
Sincerely,


Rick Burt

www.amortis.com

Rick > wrote:
> Now I don't have extended warranty, but aren't the seatbelts warranted
> for 10 years or the life of the vehicle? And if so, would that extend
> to this light coming on?

<http://automobiles.honda.com/info/news/article.asp?ArticleID=20010103000979>
"All 2000 Honda vehicles are covered by the following warranties:
New Car Limited Warranty: 3 yrs./36,000 miles
Federal Emissions Warranties: 3 yrs./36,000 miles
California Emissions Warranties 3 yrs./50,000 miles
(Component Defect/Performance)
Seat Belt Limited Warranty: Useful life of the vehicle
Rust Perforation Limited Warranty: 5 years
"

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Rick wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 Accord EX 6 cyl. with 62,000 miles on it. My SRS light
> came on a few days ago. I took it to my local Honda shop (not the
> dealer). Their diagnostics test showed: "Code 09-3 Driver's Seat
> Belt Switch Failure. Suggest return to dealer for check out under
> Honda Warranty."
>
> Now I don't have extended warranty, but aren't the seatbelts warranted
> for 10 years or the life of the vehicle? And if so, would that extend
> to this light coming on?
>
> The bottom line question, of course, is when I take it to the dealer,
> should they charge me for fixing this?

I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
belt warranty does not apply.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:08:07 GMT, Randolph > wrote:

>
>Rick wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2000 Accord EX 6 cyl. with 62,000 miles on it. My SRS light
>> came on a few days ago. I took it to my local Honda shop (not the
>> dealer). Their diagnostics test showed: "Code 09-3 Driver's Seat
>> Belt Switch Failure. Suggest return to dealer for check out under
>> Honda Warranty."
>>
>> Now I don't have extended warranty, but aren't the seatbelts warranted
>> for 10 years or the life of the vehicle? And if so, would that extend
>> to this light coming on?
>>
>> The bottom line question, of course, is when I take it to the dealer,
>> should they charge me for fixing this?
>
>I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
>rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
>belt warranty does not apply.

You are (wrongfully) incorrect on all counts.

The Honda dealer came up with the same diagnostic code. He said it's
a faulty switch, and it's located in the seatbelt. So it IS covered
under the seatbelt warranty, and is no cost to me to fix it.


Sincerely,


Rick Burt

www.amortis.com

Randolph > wrote:
> I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
> rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
> belt warranty does not apply.

It's hard to say what is included with a particular item, especially when
it comes to the long warranties that are probably government mandated.
If there is a malfunction that lights a light, they probably have to fix
the light.

On my new Ford Escape, the transmission is considered an emissions item,
and is covered by a 150,000 mile warranty because it is AT-PZEV, with the
associated mandated warranty.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:40:22 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

>Randolph > wrote:
>> I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
>> rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
>> belt warranty does not apply.
>
>It's hard to say what is included with a particular item, especially when
>it comes to the long warranties that are probably government mandated.
>If there is a malfunction that lights a light, they probably have to fix
>the light.
>
>On my new Ford Escape, the transmission is considered an emissions item,
>and is covered by a 150,000 mile warranty because it is AT-PZEV, with the
>associated mandated warranty.

The ATin my Honda was extended to 7 years, 100,000 miles from Honda
due to complaints. The best thing to do is ask questions until you
get the right answer, and not rely on blanket statements from people
like Randolph who don't know.


Sincerely,


Rick Burt
Licensed Private Investigator
State of Texas
Lic. #A11952

www.amortis.com

Rick wrote:
>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:40:22 +0000 (UTC),
> wrote:
>
> >Randolph > wrote:
> >> I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
> >> rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
> >> belt warranty does not apply.
> >
>
> The ATin my Honda was extended to 7 years, 100,000 miles from Honda
> due to complaints. The best thing to do is ask questions until you
> get the right answer, and not rely on blanket statements from people
> like Randolph who don't know.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rick Butt
> Licensed Private Investigator
> State of Texas
> Lic. #A11952
>
> www.amortis.com

To paraphrase my own answer, I suggested you ask the dealer to get it
fixed under warranty, but not to be surprised if the request is refused.
Hardly a blanket statement.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:08:06 GMT, Randolph > wrote:

>
>Rick wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:40:22 +0000 (UTC),
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Randolph > wrote:
>> >> I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
>> >> rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
>> >> belt warranty does not apply.
>> >
>>
>> The ATin my Honda was extended to 7 years, 100,000 miles from Honda
>> due to complaints. The best thing to do is ask questions until you
>> get the right answer, and not rely on blanket statements from people
>> like Randolph who don't know.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Rick Butt
>> Licensed Private Investigator
>> State of Texas
>> Lic. #A11952
>>
>> www.amortis.com
>
>To paraphrase my own answer, I suggested you ask the dealer to get it
>fixed under warranty, but not to be surprised if the request is refused.
>Hardly a blanket statement.

Randolph, you can paraphrase your response any which way you want, but
even that statement is WRONG.

You chose to put in the word *rightfully*, enclosing it in parentheses
to make your point.

I'd suggest you not give out advice unless you know what you're
talking about.


Sincerely,


Rick Burt
Licensed Private Investigator
State of Texas
Lic. #A11952

www.amortis.com

Rick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:08:07 GMT, Randolph > wrote:
>>I certainly would try the warranty angle, but they will probably (and
>>rightfully) tell you that the seat belts work, so the life time seat
>>belt warranty does not apply.
>
>
> You are (wrongfully) incorrect on all counts.
>
> The Honda dealer came up with the same diagnostic code. He said it's
> a faulty switch, and it's located in the seatbelt. So it IS covered
> under the seatbelt warranty, and is no cost to me to fix it.

Cool. My last Honda vehicle became the property of my insurance
company after it got stripped. However - this is wording of the
warranty of my new car for comparison:

"SEATBELT LIFETIME LIMITED WARRANTY

SEAT BELT COVERAGE lasts for the useful life of the vehicle and
includes seat belts and related components which fail to function
properly during normal use.

This warranty does not apply to cosmetic appearance, such as color
fading, when the seat belts function properly. Coverage also
excludes any electrical related components or body anchor points."


Apparently the Honda seat belt warranty is also for the life of the
car with the exception of cosmetic wear. Also - it doesn't have
any exception for electrical components like mine has.

<http://www.clhonda.com/html/service_parts/pdf/Seat%20Belt%20Limited%20Warranty.pdf>

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:21:56 GMT, y_p_w > wrote:
>
>
>Apparently the Honda seat belt warranty is also for the life of the
>car with the exception of cosmetic wear. Also - it doesn't have
>any exception for electrical components like mine has.
>
><http://www.clhonda.com/html/service_parts/pdf/Seat%20Belt%20Limited%20Warranty.pdf>

Where in the .pdf file link above is the exception for electrical
components?



Sincerely,


Rick Burt
Licensed Private Investigator
State of Texas
Lic. #A11952

www.amortis.com