WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR??

"ray" > wrote in message ...
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> "krp" > wrote:
>
>> "ray" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> >> >> Ray can't see the benefits of anything but gas guzzlers. Besides
>> >> >> being
>> >> >> faster, cheaper, and safer, there are many psychological benefits. Not
>> >> >> having the STRESS of dealing with congested traffic and CRAZY drivers.
>> >> >> Yes
>> >> >> cleaner air. There are so many ways the costs of travel will be lower.
>> >> >> You
>> >> >> just need to see past the tip of your nose.
>> >>
>> >> > Are we talking electric cars here or mass transportation? If you are
>> >> > talking mass transportation, we worked decades to get away from that
>> >> > antiquated system. If you are talking about electric cars, they are
>> >> > not
>> >> > safer or cheaper to drive.
>> >>
>> >> Actually both, Ray. We never should have gotten away from that
>> >> system.
>> >> Look at traffic. Look at the number of accidents. Look at the number of
>> >> lawyers and quack doctors. As to the electric cars like the Eliicar it IS
>> >> both safer and cheaper. But we are just starting on new technology. It
>> >> will
>> >> have to evolve. I see a system where people don't even own cars. Where
>> >> transportation is cheap. You just call for a car and one shows up and
>> >> takes
>> >> you where you want to go. Then high speed underground rail to either
>> >> replace
>> >> or seriously augment air travel.
>>
>> > I know there are places like NYC where people don't have cars, but there
>> > is no way you are going to convince me that ordering a car to pick you
>> > up and take you where you want to go is just as cost effective as owning
>> > your own car.
>>
>> I worked out of my company's Park Evenue offices for some years. MOST
>> people who live in Manhattan either don't own a care or rarely drive the
>> ones they have. When you add ALL the costs of owning a car it would be
>> cheaper. Insurance, accidents, injuries, medical bills. Not to mention the
>> other charges.
>>
>> > When they develop a cost effective electric car that is just as good as
>> > our gasoline cars, then I will be interested; most people would. But
>> > until that time comes, you can't force technology. It comes on it's own
>> > time.
>>
>> The electric car WILL become cost affordable WHEN they are in mass
>> production. One article suggests that the Eliica COULD be sold for $35K if
>> they could make and sell a million units a year.
>
> But I purchased my Toyota for $15,000. It's a 2005, but only had 13,000
> miles on it when I picked it up. If I bought one of these electric
> cars, it would cost me $20,000 more, and I would still have a high
> electric bill at the end of the month. And how reliable are those
> vehicles? Would they come with a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty
> like the car I own now?
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NONE of the cars did in 1977 it was 12/12 warranty........... and came with Firestone tires.........

In article >,
"M.B" > wrote:

> >> > When they develop a cost effective electric car that is just as good as
> >> > our gasoline cars, then I will be interested; most people would. But
> >> > until that time comes, you can't force technology. It comes on it's own
> >> > time.
> >>
> >> The electric car WILL become cost affordable WHEN they are in mass
> >> production. One article suggests that the Eliica COULD be sold for $35K if
> >> they could make and sell a million units a year.
> >
> > But I purchased my Toyota for $15,000. It's a 2005, but only had 13,000
> > miles on it when I picked it up. If I bought one of these electric
> > cars, it would cost me $20,000 more, and I would still have a high
> > electric bill at the end of the month. And how reliable are those
> > vehicles? Would they come with a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty
> > like the car I own now?
> >
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> > Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
>
>
> NONE of the cars did in 1977 it was 12/12 warranty........... and came with
> Firestone tires.........

Many American made cars are still three years and 30,000 miles. That is
of course unless you purchase some sort of extended plan. All Japanese
cars have the 100,000 bumper to bumper.

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"ray" > wrote in message ...
> In article >,
> "M.B" > wrote:
>
>> >> > When they develop a cost effective electric car that is just as good as
>> >> > our gasoline cars, then I will be interested; most people would. But
>> >> > until that time comes, you can't force technology. It comes on it's own
>> >> > time.
>> >>
>> >> The electric car WILL become cost affordable WHEN they are in mass
>> >> production. One article suggests that the Eliica COULD be sold for $35K if
>> >> they could make and sell a million units a year.
>> >
>> > But I purchased my Toyota for $15,000. It's a 2005, but only had 13,000
>> > miles on it when I picked it up. If I bought one of these electric
>> > cars, it would cost me $20,000 more, and I would still have a high
>> > electric bill at the end of the month. And how reliable are those
>> > vehicles? Would they come with a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty
>> > like the car I own now?
>> >
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>> > Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
>>
>>
>> NONE of the cars did in 1977 it was 12/12 warranty........... and came with
>> Firestone tires.........
>
> Many American made cars are still three years and 30,000 miles. That is
> of course unless you purchase some sort of extended plan. All Japanese
> cars have the 100,000 bumper to bumper.

Not so in 2000 I bought a brand new off the show room Toyota Echo that had 36/36 and for two more grand I'd get the 100,000 and that car had ten recalls for the brakes, I called Japan because of one of those recalls.

MB
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The early Civic didn't it had a Honda 750 motorcycle engine sideways with the shifter on the dash in the middle and it came in Lemon yellow! And it was 12/12. My 2003 Buick had a 36/36 warranty on it, WITH ZERO recalls.

In article >,
"M.B" > wrote:

> >>
> >> NONE of the cars did in 1977 it was 12/12 warranty........... and came
> >> with
> >> Firestone tires.........
> >
> > Many American made cars are still three years and 30,000 miles. That is
> > of course unless you purchase some sort of extended plan. All Japanese
> > cars have the 100,000 bumper to bumper.
>
> Not so in 2000 I bought a brand new off the show room Toyota Echo that had
> 36/36 and for two more grand I'd get the 100,000 and that car had ten recalls
> for the brakes, I called Japan because of one of those recalls.

You are talking about nine and one-half years ago MB. What are they
offering these days?

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