Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:33:34 +0000, in wrote:

>>> anything below 50f is not allowed.
>>> we don't do cold.
>>
>>
>>Damn! Where the hell are you? Hell?
>>
>>
> mojave desert. who needs cold and crap?

Like I said...Hell!

I don't think I could stand it. I start to melt ~85 degrees F....

In article >, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:33:34 +0000, in wrote:
>
>>>> anything below 50f is not allowed.
>>>> we don't do cold.
>>>
>>>
>>>Damn! Where the hell are you? Hell?
>>>
>>>
>> mojave desert. who needs cold and crap?
>
>Like I said...Hell!
>
>I don't think I could stand it. I start to melt ~85 degrees F....
>
>
>
fater 30 odd new england winters, it took me a bit to adjust. about 3 minutes.
when you go out in january with just a sweater, it becomes easy.

On 11/27/09 8:38 AM, in article
, " >
wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article
>> >,
>> phaeton > wrote:
>>>
>>>> This isn't new, either, suggesting that Toyota's troubles may be more
>>>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
>>>> before two-thirds of Detroit's automakers were tempered by the fires
>>>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
>>>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
>>>> Camry V-6.
>>>>
>>>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
>>>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt -- or its prized
>>>> "recommended" label. And Toyota's V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
>>>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
>>>> to discerning car and truck buyers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
>>
>> yeah, a 50 mile square grain.
>
> I have my own theory about Consumer Reports Ratings, when the ratings are a
> reflection of public response - who responds to the typical survey? Who
> writes letter to the editor? Who calls a corporate complaint/compliment
> line? Those who are not happy. So, in my own little not so humble opinion,
> CR public response ratings are skewed to the negative.
>

That may be true, but every time I have looked up CR's ratings for any car
I've owned over the past 40 years, the problems they predicted have matched
exactly with what I experienced.

In article >, "E. Meyer" > wrote:
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>
>
>On 11/27/09 8:38 AM, in article
, " >
>wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article
>>> >,
>>> phaeton > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This isn't new, either, suggesting that Toyota's troubles may be more
>>>>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
>>>>> before two-thirds of Detroit's automakers were tempered by the fires
>>>>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
>>>>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
>>>>> Camry V-6.
>>>>>
>>>>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
>>>>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt -- or its prized
>>>>> "recommended" label. And Toyota's V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
>>>>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
>>>>> to discerning car and truck buyers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
>>>
>>> yeah, a 50 mile square grain.
>>
>> I have my own theory about Consumer Reports Ratings, when the ratings are a
>> reflection of public response - who responds to the typical survey? Who
>> writes letter to the editor? Who calls a corporate complaint/compliment
>> line? Those who are not happy. So, in my own little not so humble opinion,
>> CR public response ratings are skewed to the negative.
>>
>
>That may be true, but every time I have looked up CR's ratings for any car
>I've owned over the past 40 years, the problems they predicted have matched
>exactly with what I experienced.
>
yeah, 20/20 hindsight.
while i don't totally disdain them, they are pretty one sided about a lot.
i suppose we could use the better than nothing argument.......

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:16:17 +0000, in wrote:

> In article >,
> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > wrote:
>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:33:34 +0000, in wrote:
>>
>>>>> anything below 50f is not allowed.
>>>>> we don't do cold.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Damn! Where the hell are you? Hell?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> mojave desert. who needs cold and crap?
>>
>>Like I said...Hell!
>>
>>I don't think I could stand it. I start to melt ~85 degrees F....
>>
>>
>>
> fater 30 odd new england winters, it took me a bit to adjust. about 3
> minutes. when you go out in january with just a sweater, it becomes easy.

Where were you at?

In article >, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:16:17 +0000, in wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > wrote:
>>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:33:34 +0000, in wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> anything below 50f is not allowed.
>>>>>> we don't do cold.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Damn! Where the hell are you? Hell?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> mojave desert. who needs cold and crap?
>>>
>>>Like I said...Hell!
>>>
>>>I don't think I could stand it. I start to melt ~85 degrees F....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> fater 30 odd new england winters, it took me a bit to adjust. about 3
>> minutes. when you go out in january with just a sweater, it becomes easy.
>
>Where were you at?
>
>
>
i was in boston. or do you mean now? now i am in the desert, mojave.

> wrote in message
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> In article >, "Elmo P.
> Shagnasty" > wrote:
>>In article >,
>> in ) wrote:
>>
>>> >> >Maybe you mean harakiri?
>>> >> seppeku is the correct name.
>>> >> the other is stupid slang.
>>> >
>>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakiri
>>> >
>>> >The most famous form of seppuku is also known as harakiri (yÅRä0,
>>> >"cutting the belly") and is written with the same kanji as seppuku but
>>> >in reverse order with an okurigana. In Japanese, the more formal
>>> >seppuku, a Chinese on'yomi reading, is typically used in writing, while
>>> >harakiri, a native kun'yomi reading, is used in speech.
>>>
>>> exactly, "common useage" for the peasants.
>>
>>doesn't say that at all.
>>
>>I think your mom is calling you upstairs for dinner.
>
> typical no nothing attempt to assert pretend authority.
> you have no mother, you reproduced from fusion like all bacteria.

At least he isn't a Sheep ****er like yourself.