Crazy driving laws in your state or country

jgar the jorrible wrote:
>> The first time I hired a car in Los Angeles, I took my own satnav with me
>> (loaded with USA maps). The man at the check-out post told me about the
>> California state law when he saw the satnav mounted just below the interior
>> mirror. I moved it over to the top left and have never had any trouble from
>> the CHP on that or any of my several subsequent trips there.
>>
>> I suppose that what I really need is one of those little sandbag efforts like
>> the car-hire firms give you with a rented GPS. Mind you, they charge $15 a
>> day for a GPS, meaning that a two week holiday costs $210 extra...
>>
>> Driving in Los Angeles, Orange County or the San Francisco bay area without a
>> satnav would be foolhardy, IMHO. But once out of those areas and on the more
>> rural parts of the interstate, it's just like anywhere else. Driving to Las
>> Vegas, for instance, doesn't require GPS.
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> A few weeks ago, company picnic, satnav tried to tell me to drive in
> the "will destroy your tires" exit at the park lol. Good job as
> usual, Microsoft Sync! I admit, it has done a good job for me in SF.
> But it blows donkeys out in the Sierras, where you could be the next
> http://www.traditionalmountaineering...t_JamesKim.htm .
>
> Not so sure I agree with that about LV, man, you get out in the
> desert, you could drive miles in the wrong direction.
>
> jg

Those errors are common across all the different nav units. Things
change between the time the software is written or the research isn't
done to verify items. That is why I keep updating map sites as much as
possible. I also trust ME more than any chunk of hardware.
--
Steve W.

jgar the jorrible > writes:

> On Jul 13, 8:58Â*am, JNugent > wrote:
>> On 13/07/2012 09:42, NM wrote:
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>> > On Jul 13, 7:30 am, "Arklin K." > wrote:
>> >> One weird law I find is that in New York state, you can't transport more
>> >> than 25 gallons of fuel in your trunk or pickup bed ... but in
>> >> California, that limit is 600 pounds (yes pounds) of gasoline (not
>> >> including the gas tank of the vehicle).
>> >> Another weird law is that the state of California prohibits putting the
>> >> GPS on the windshield (except in the far passenger side corner, which
>> >> nobody on the planet would do).
>> > Moe somewhere less oppressive then, like Mexico, it's just down the
>> > road.
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>> The first time I hired a car in Los Angeles, I took my own satnav with me
>> (loaded with USA maps). The man at the check-out post told me about the
>> California state law when he saw the satnav mounted just below the interior
>> mirror. I moved it over to the top left and have never had any trouble from
>> the CHP on that or any of my several subsequent trips there.
>>
>> I suppose that what I really need is one of those little sandbag efforts like
>> the car-hire firms give you with a rented GPS. Mind you, they charge $15 a
>> day for a GPS, meaning that a two week holiday costs $210 extra...
>>
>> Driving in Los Angeles, Orange County or the San Francisco bay area without a
>> satnav would be foolhardy, IMHO. But once out of those areas and on the more
>> rural parts of the interstate, it's just like anywhere else. Driving to Las
>> Vegas, for instance, doesn't require GPS.
>
> A few weeks ago, company picnic, satnav tried to tell me to drive in
> the "will destroy your tires" exit at the park lol. Good job as
> usual, Microsoft Sync! I admit, it has done a good job for me in SF.
> But it blows donkeys out in the Sierras, where you could be the next
> http://www.traditionalmountaineering...t_JamesKim.htm .

The Kims made several serious mistakes that were not the fault of their
GPS. Even if it had been summer and they had not gotten lost, the
excellent road US-199 is the fastest way from Medford to Gold Beach.
You can admire James Kim's courage in going out for help without
admiring his judgement.

-- Patrick

On Jul 13, 8:08*pm, JNugent > wrote:
> On 13/07/2012 17:13, Mike P wrote:
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> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:58:48 +0100, JNugent wrote:
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> >> On 13/07/2012 09:42, NM wrote:
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> >>> On Jul 13, 7:30 am, "Arklin K." > wrote:
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> >>>> One weird law I find is that in New York state, you can't transport
> >>>> more than 25 gallons of fuel in your trunk or pickup bed ... but in
> >>>> California, that limit is 600 pounds (yes pounds) of gasoline (not
> >>>> including the gas tank of the vehicle).
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> >>>> Another weird law is that the state of California prohibits putting
> >>>> the GPS on the windshield (except in the far passenger side corner,
> >>>> which nobody on the planet would do).
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> >>> Moe somewhere less oppressive then, like Mexico, it's just down the
> >>> road.
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> >> The first time I hired a car in Los Angeles, I took my own satnav with
> >> me (loaded with USA maps). The man at the check-out post told me about
> >> the California state law when he saw the satnav mounted just below the
> >> interior mirror.
>
> > Do you really mount it just below the interior mirror? FFS. Talk about a
> > distraction!
>
> Yes. It's quite a normal place to mount a satnav, being both visible and
> reachable and close enough to be able to run the charging cable into the
> cigar-lighter socket.
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> Look about you as you drive around. You will find that it is the most often
> seen location for a removable satnav.

All that tells me is that there are a lot of stupid people about.

I mount mine right down at the base of the windscreeen, well out of my
eyeline, where it can't reflect off anything or my glasses, doesn't
shine in my face and listen to the thing far more than look at it.

On Jul 13, 12:28*pm, JNugent > wrote:
> On 13/07/2012 20:19, jgar the jorrible wrote:
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> > On Jul 13, 8:58 am, JNugent > wrote:
> >> On 13/07/2012 09:42, NM wrote:
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> >>> On Jul 13, 7:30 am, "Arklin K." > wrote:
> >>>> One weird law I find is that in New York state, you can't transport more
> >>>> than 25 gallons of fuel in your trunk or pickup bed ... but in
> >>>> California, that limit is 600 pounds (yes pounds) of gasoline (not
> >>>> including the gas tank of the vehicle).
> >>>> Another weird law is that the state of California prohibits putting the
> >>>> GPS on the windshield (except in the far passenger side corner, which
> >>>> nobody on the planet would do).
> >>> Moe somewhere less oppressive then, like Mexico, it's just down the
> >>> road.
>
> >> The first time I hired a car in Los Angeles, I took my own satnav with me
> >> (loaded with USA maps). The man at the check-out post told me about the
> >> California state law when he saw the satnav mounted just below the interior
> >> mirror. I moved it over to the top left and have never had any trouble from
> >> the CHP on that or any of my several subsequent trips there.
>
> >> I suppose that what I really need is one of those little sandbag efforts like
> >> the car-hire firms give you with a rented GPS. Mind you, they charge $15 a
> >> day for a GPS, meaning that a two week holiday costs $210 extra...
>
> >> Driving in Los Angeles, Orange County or the San Francisco bay area without a
> >> satnav would be foolhardy, IMHO. But once out of those areas and on the more
> >> rural parts of the interstate, it's just like anywhere else. Driving to Las
> >> Vegas, for instance, doesn't require GPS.
>
> > A few weeks ago, company picnic, satnav tried to tell me to drive in
> > the "will destroy your tires" exit at the park lol. *Good job as
> > usual, Microsoft Sync! *I admit, it has done a good job for me in SF.
> > But it blows donkeys out in the Sierras, where you could be the next
> >http://www.traditionalmountaineering...t_JamesKim.htm.
>
> > Not so sure I agree with that about LV, man, you get out in the
> > desert, you could drive miles in the wrong direction.
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> :-) What? On I15?

:-) yeah, if you are unfamiliar with it and get back on on the wrong
ramp, 'specially at night or in a storm. Back roads, everything looks
the same. One time I decided to follow a large scale map to a picnic
area, figuring if a road is on that scale it must be passable, maybe
check out Scotty's Castle on the way to Vegas. Great double-takes at
the Lincoln I had at the time from people in jeeps way out on some
jeep trail between Trona and Death Valley. Now, this isn't a big deal
for me, since I have experience with desert survival and such (and
kept supplies in my car because I was commuting SD to LV monthly), but
every year some tourist needs to be rescued out in Death Valley.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/30/336...in-desert.html
What's up with German tourists and the desert?

And I've been on 15 when you can't even see lines on the road, much
less actual signs.

jg
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and you get pieces of boat scattered all over the freeway.

On Jul 13, 1:31*pm, "Steve W." > wrote:
> jgar the jorrible wrote:
> >> The first time I hired a car in Los Angeles, I took my own satnav with me
> >> (loaded with USA maps). The man at the check-out post told me about the
> >> California state law when he saw the satnav mounted just below the interior
> >> mirror. I moved it over to the top left and have never had any trouble from
> >> the CHP on that or any of my several subsequent trips there.
>
> >> I suppose that what I really need is one of those little sandbag efforts like
> >> the car-hire firms give you with a rented GPS. Mind you, they charge $15 a
> >> day for a GPS, meaning that a two week holiday costs $210 extra...
>
> >> Driving in Los Angeles, Orange County or the San Francisco bay area without a
> >> satnav would be foolhardy, IMHO. But once out of those areas and on the more
> >> rural parts of the interstate, it's just like anywhere else. Driving to Las
> >> Vegas, for instance, doesn't require GPS.
>
> > A few weeks ago, company picnic, satnav tried to tell me to drive in
> > the "will destroy your tires" exit at the park lol. *Good job as
> > usual, Microsoft Sync! *I admit, it has done a good job for me in SF.
> > But it blows donkeys out in the Sierras, where you could be the next
> >http://www.traditionalmountaineering...t_JamesKim.htm.
>
> > Not so sure I agree with that about LV, man, you get out in the
> > desert, you could drive miles in the wrong direction.
>
> > jg
>
> Those errors are common across all the different nav units. Things
> change between the time the software is written or the research isn't
> done to verify items. That is why I keep updating map sites as much as
> possible. I also trust ME more than any chunk of hardware.
> --
> Steve W.

I refuse to pay Bill Gates $200 a year to update something that has
already proven worse than useless in the most necessary situation,
especially without being able to verify it will fix what it has
already done wrong. $600 saved so far, and I'm pretty sure I'll
ignore the next marketing memo I should be getting soon. With that
money, I could get an iPad and google street view.

I did grant that it did good in SF. I'm pretty sure I'm in some
tourist's picture driving down Lombard Street, with my hands on my
head and a look of terror on my face "OMIGODWEREALLGONNADIE" lol.
Well, at least my kids appreciate my sense of humor.

jg
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Probably not gps-related, but fun to imagine it is:
http://www.10news.com/news/31211988/detail.html

Arklin K. said

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:22:35 +0000, Arklin K. wrote:
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>> In another thread, we were discussing crazy California laws and I
>> got to wondering what crazy laws are in your state or country.
>

> And the list goes on and on and on in the nanny state.

Bed wetting liberal democrats. Nuff said...

On Jul 13, 1:52*pm, Patrick Scheible > wrote:
> jgar the jorrible > writes:

> The Kims made several serious mistakes that were not the fault of their
> GPS. *Even if it had been summer and they had not gotten lost, the
> excellent road US-199 is the fastest way from Medford to Gold Beach.
> You can admire James Kim's courage in going out for help without
> admiring his judgement.
>
> -- Patrick

Yeah, I was going to write "next Donner Party" but something about
verisimilitude made me reference that instead. I've been miserably
cold in snow in the wilderness, it makes you want to just lay down and
die. I can't even imagine what it must be like being unprepared for
it.

jg
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:22:35 +0000 (UTC), "Arklin K."
> wrote:

>In another thread, we were discussing crazy California laws and I got to
>wondering what crazy laws are in your state or country.

In NY and at least one or two other eastern states, they mandate that
you MUST have your headlights on anytime you use your wipers.

On 07/13/2012 08:18 AM, richard wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:44:46 -0400, Arif Khokar wrote:
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>> On 7/13/2012 2:22 AM, Arklin K. wrote:
>>> In another thread, we were discussing crazy California laws and I got to
>>> wondering what crazy laws are in your state or country.
>>
>> 1. Driving more than 75 or 80 mph on most interstates is considered
>> reckless driving
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>> 2. Radar Detectors are illegal (it's the only state in the country where
>> this is the case ...)
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> Virginia has banned radar detectors for years.

radar detectors are not illegal in ca any more.

the story goes that the former sf mayor and california legislator,
willie brown, got a ticket driving his acura nsx to the state capital
late one night. his radar detector helped him avoid the speeding trap,
but they stopped him anyway and gave him a ticket for having a detector.
willie saw red at this and petitioned to legalize them, successfully
apparently.


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In article >,
Ashton Crusher > wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:22:35 +0000 (UTC), "Arklin K."
> wrote:
>
>>In another thread, we were discussing crazy California laws and I got to
>>wondering what crazy laws are in your state or country.
>
>In NY and at least one or two other eastern states, they mandate that
>you MUST have your headlights on anytime you use your wipers.

True in at least NC and SC. I don't see anything crazy about it, though. Most cars, except for the cops, seem to comply.

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