Any diesel mechanic gurus on here?

buffalo wrote:

> Should be clear from Phillip's post why I don't want to waste time.
>

But you're perfectly willing to waste even more more time typing idiotic
reasons NOT to just explain the problem. Yep, you're a real brain trust,
there, mister.

I'd be glad to think about any problem you post and offer any
suggestions I can come up with... IF you'll go ahead and POST it.
There's absolutely no rational, sane, intelligent reason to not just
throw it out there and watch for results.

buffalo wrote:

> Can't get fuel from the injection pump to the injectors. Bled air from
> lines up to pump.
>
> b.
>

Why dintcha just SAY so yesterday?

Crack open a fitting at each injector and bleed the injector lines. If
you have air bubbles in the injector lines, the pump's "shot" on each
injection stroke is not enough to compress the bubble enough to force it
out and into the cylinder when the cylinder is under compression. So the
bubble just compresses and re-expands without actually going anywhere.
Cracking the line open at the injector allows the injection pump to
force the air out while working only against atmospheric pressure.

Is there fuel in the tank?

"buffalo" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Can't get fuel from the injection pump to the injectors. Bled air from
> lines up to pump.
>
> b.
>
>
> "Noozer" > wrote in message
> news:It5ph.606205$R63.37539@pd7urf1no...
>> Ya
>>
>> "buffalo" > wrote in message
>> link.net...
>>> Fine, Noozer.
>>>
>>> I have fuel problems with an Onan Diesel, DJC, 4 cylinder.
>>>
>>> Are you familiar with them?
>>>
>>> b
>>>
>>>
>>> "Noozer" > wrote in message
>>> news:QT_oh.589611$1T2.311937@pd7urf2no...
>>>>I am... what's up ?
>>>>
>>>> "buffalo" > wrote in message
>>>> ink.net...
>>>>> before I type a bunch of stuff, are you a diesel mechanic? Onan
>>>>> engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> buffalo wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a problem with a 4 cyl. diesel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK I'll bite , what are the symptoms ?
>>>>>> what make and model engine ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

You see, kid, that is why Usenet is full of folks who waste your time.

Now, grow up and buzz off. You can't contribute anything but hatefulness.

b


"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> LOL!
>
> You have already wasted half a day with your BS posts.
>
> Mike
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> buffalo wrote:
>>
>> Should be clear from Phillip's post why I don't want to waste time.
>>
>> "Phillip McCracken" > wrote in message
>> news:cW%oh.598794$5R2.453621@pd7urf3no...
>> > junk it.
>> > "buffalo" > wrote in message
>> > link.net...
>> >> Fine, Noozer.
>> >>
>> >> I have fuel problems with an Onan Diesel, DJC, 4 cylinder.
>> >>
>> >> Are you familiar with them?
>> >>
>> >> b
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Noozer" > wrote in message
>> >> news:QT_oh.589611$1T2.311937@pd7urf2no...
>> >>>I am... what's up ?
>> >>>
>> >>> "buffalo" > wrote in message
>> >>> ink.net...
>> >>>> before I type a bunch of stuff, are you a diesel mechanic? Onan
>> >>>> engine.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > wrote in message
>> >>>> oups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> buffalo wrote:
>> >>>>>> I have a problem with a 4 cyl. diesel.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> OK I'll bite , what are the symptoms ?
>> >>>>> what make and model engine ?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

Nah, you are not qualified. In other words, you are not capable of helping
with THIS problem. All you know that there is air in the system.

Now, run along.


"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> buffalo wrote:
>
>> Should be clear from Phillip's post why I don't want to waste time.
>>
>
> But you're perfectly willing to waste even more more time typing idiotic
> reasons NOT to just explain the problem. Yep, you're a real brain trust,
> there, mister.
>
> I'd be glad to think about any problem you post and offer any suggestions
> I can come up with... IF you'll go ahead and POST it. There's absolutely
> no rational, sane, intelligent reason to not just throw it out there and
> watch for results.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yes, it is turning or I would have said that it is not. To put it
succinctly, there is no fuel to the injectors.

I, too, believe it is a Rossa/Stanadyne.

Don't have a fuel pressure gauge -yet but, it was running with the same flow
to the pump as now as determined by eye (yes, I know but, it should at least
run with some amount of flow) and that was manually pumping it.

No, yours is not a silly suggestion when you suggest that the pump may not
be turning but, just look at the kiddies who have nothing to offer but
silly, childish remarks - Usenet is full of them.

Thanks.

b


> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> buffalo wrote:
>> Can't get fuel from the injection pump to the injectors. Bled air from
>> lines up to pump.
>>
>> b.
>>
> Now that you have actually specified a problem....
>
> Is the pump actually turning? (not a silly question)
>
> Do you get any fuel out of the top of the pump while cranking the
> engine? (pull the lines)
>
> What pump is on this? I think it's a Rossa, but if it's a Bosch or
> Rochester, you may be able to pull the side plates and make sure the
> pistons are moving and the rack isn't frozen.
>
> What sort of fuel pressure do you have to the pump?
>
> Have you bled the injector lines?
>
> JW
>

No, Noozer, there is no fuel in the tank. Should there be?

b


"Noozer" > wrote in message
news:xqeph.612322$R63.357428@pd7urf1no...
> Is there fuel in the tank?
>
> "buffalo" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> Can't get fuel from the injection pump to the injectors. Bled air from
>> lines up to pump.
>>
>> b.
>>
>>
>> "Noozer" > wrote in message
>> news:It5ph.606205$R63.37539@pd7urf1no...
>>> Ya
>>>
>>> "buffalo" > wrote in message
>>> link.net...
>>>> Fine, Noozer.
>>>>
>>>> I have fuel problems with an Onan Diesel, DJC, 4 cylinder.
>>>>
>>>> Are you familiar with them?
>>>>
>>>> b
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Noozer" > wrote in message
>>>> news:QT_oh.589611$1T2.311937@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>I am... what's up ?
>>>>>
>>>>> "buffalo" > wrote in message
>>>>> ink.net...
>>>>>> before I type a bunch of stuff, are you a diesel mechanic? Onan
>>>>>> engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> buffalo wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a problem with a 4 cyl. diesel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK I'll bite , what are the symptoms ?
>>>>>>> what make and model engine ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Why 'shuffle off'? Stay around for the circus and watch - already, we have
a number of clowns.

Btw, why did you think a medical condition was involved?

b

Seems like the only one here with any 'snap' is cyberzl1

That otto stir the gutter.


"aarcuda69062" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> . net>,
> "buffalo" > wrote:
>
>> I have a problem with a 4 cyl. diesel.
>
> Your subject line had me thinking that you are a diesel mechanic
> with a medical problem.

buffalo wrote:
> Yes, it is turning or I would have said that it is not. To put it
> succinctly, there is no fuel to the injectors.
>
> I, too, believe it is a Rossa/Stanadyne.
>
> Don't have a fuel pressure gauge -yet but, it was running with the same flow
> to the pump as now as determined by eye (yes, I know but, it should at least
> run with some amount of flow) and that was manually pumping it.
>
> No, yours is not a silly suggestion when you suggest that the pump may not
> be turning but, just look at the kiddies who have nothing to offer but
> silly, childish remarks - Usenet is full of them.
>
> Thanks.
>
> b


If it was running when you pumped fuel to it but isn't now then you
either have a bad pump with low pressure, or you didn't bleed the entire
system. ANY air in a diesel will cause problems.

Steve W.

Please read and understand my previous posts.

b




"Steve W." > wrote in message ...
> buffalo wrote:
>> Yes, it is turning or I would have said that it is not. To put it
>> succinctly, there is no fuel to the injectors.
>>
>> I, too, believe it is a Rossa/Stanadyne.
>>
>> Don't have a fuel pressure gauge -yet but, it was running with the same
>> flow to the pump as now as determined by eye (yes, I know but, it should
>> at least run with some amount of flow) and that was manually pumping it.
>>
>> No, yours is not a silly suggestion when you suggest that the pump may
>> not be turning but, just look at the kiddies who have nothing to offer
>> but silly, childish remarks - Usenet is full of them.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> b
>
>
> If it was running when you pumped fuel to it but isn't now then you either
> have a bad pump with low pressure, or you didn't bleed the entire system.
> ANY air in a diesel will cause problems.