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Paul Vincent Craven
November 13th 03, 04:15 PM
I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an in-tank
overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water sort
of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The sump is
pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is the
problem.

I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would be
more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
don't know if this would help.

Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?

Paul Vincent Craven

http://www.cravenfamily.com

Dragon Slayer
November 13th 03, 08:00 PM
search for a "durso" standpipe. IME they are very quite.


kc

"Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
om...
> I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an in-tank
> overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water sort
> of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The sump is
> pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is the
> problem.
>
> I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would be
> more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
> don't know if this would help.
>
> Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
>
> Paul Vincent Craven
>
> http://www.cravenfamily.com

Benjamin
November 13th 03, 08:16 PM
Paul,

I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my overflow up
take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major remodeling of
the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did me.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html

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"Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
om...
> I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an in-tank
> overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water sort
> of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The sump is
> pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is the
> problem.
>
> I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would be
> more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
> don't know if this would help.
>
> Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
>
> Paul Vincent Craven
>
> http://www.cravenfamily.com

Dave Cobb
November 14th 03, 01:29 AM
Hmmm that looks good for a "drilled" tank.. any ideas for tanks with a
H.O.T. overflow?

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> Paul,
>
> I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my overflow
up
> take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major remodeling
of
> the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did me.
>
> http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html
>
> --
> --
>
> My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
> om...
> > I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an in-tank
> > overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water sort
> > of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The sump is
> > pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is the
> > problem.
> >
> > I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would be
> > more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
> > don't know if this would help.
> >
> > Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
> >
> > Paul Vincent Craven
> >
> > http://www.cravenfamily.com
>
>

Benjamin
November 14th 03, 02:22 AM
Sorry if I misread that... "The tank has an in-tank overflow, which is
really loud." Made me think you had a drilled tank. If you haven't then I
think the "Stockman Standpipe" is what you may want to look at.

http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe-ken_stockman.htm is one
location... there are others. I haven't played with it, but am sure
something like it is workable.

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"Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
news:4eWsb.390$vJ6.179@fed1read05...
> Hmmm that looks good for a "drilled" tank.. any ideas for tanks with a
> H.O.T. overflow?
>
> "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Paul,
> >
> > I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my
overflow
> up
> > take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major remodeling
> of
> > the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did me.
> >
> > http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html
> >
> > --
> > --
> >
> > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an in-tank
> > > overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water sort
> > > of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The sump is
> > > pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would be
> > > more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
> > > don't know if this would help.
> > >
> > > Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
> > >
> > > Paul Vincent Craven
> > >
> > > http://www.cravenfamily.com
> >
> >
>
>

Paul Vincent Craven
November 14th 03, 02:40 AM
"Benjamin" > wrote in message >...

> I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my overflow up

[snip]

Thanks! This is exactly the info I needed. Even better that it is the
exact same system. Thanks to you and Dragonslayer as well. Your
responses will be put to use.

Paul Vincent Craven

http://www.cravenfamily.com

Dave Cobb
November 14th 03, 03:42 AM
That's cool.. but it seems to prevent you from using a pre-filter on the
overflow.

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry if I misread that... "The tank has an in-tank overflow, which is
> really loud." Made me think you had a drilled tank. If you haven't then
I
> think the "Stockman Standpipe" is what you may want to look at.
>
> http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe-ken_stockman.htm is
one
> location... there are others. I haven't played with it, but am sure
> something like it is workable.
>
> --
> --
>
> My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
>
>
> "Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
> news:4eWsb.390$vJ6.179@fed1read05...
> > Hmmm that looks good for a "drilled" tank.. any ideas for tanks with a
> > H.O.T. overflow?
> >
> > "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my
> overflow
> > up
> > > take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major
remodeling
> > of
> > > the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did me.
> > >
> > > http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > >
> > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > > I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an in-tank
> > > > overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water
sort
> > > > of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The sump
is
> > > > pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is the
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would be
> > > > more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
> > > > don't know if this would help.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
> > > >
> > > > Paul Vincent Craven
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cravenfamily.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Benjamin
November 14th 03, 04:58 AM
I can't for the life of me imagine why one would want a pre-filter on their
overflow. I use a micron sock in the sump as needed for fine mechanical
filtering. Seems to me to be less hassle and better fail safe as in if it
plugs up, no trouble, water overflows and spills right into the sump as
opposed to out the top of the tank if it were a plugged up pre-filter. I
think that building one for it would be rather trivial though, getting one
to actually work well might be a pain however.

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My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/



"Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
news:4bYsb.412$vJ6.242@fed1read05...
> That's cool.. but it seems to prevent you from using a pre-filter on the
> overflow.
>
> "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sorry if I misread that... "The tank has an in-tank overflow, which is
> > really loud." Made me think you had a drilled tank. If you haven't
then
> I
> > think the "Stockman Standpipe" is what you may want to look at.
> >
> > http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe-ken_stockman.htm is
> one
> > location... there are others. I haven't played with it, but am sure
> > something like it is workable.
> >
> > --
> > --
> >
> > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> >
> >
> > "Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
> > news:4eWsb.390$vJ6.179@fed1read05...
> > > Hmmm that looks good for a "drilled" tank.. any ideas for tanks with a
> > > H.O.T. overflow?
> > >
> > > "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Paul,
> > > >
> > > > I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my
> > overflow
> > > up
> > > > take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major
> remodeling
> > > of
> > > > the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did me.
> > > >
> > > > http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
> > > > om...
> > > > > I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an
in-tank
> > > > > overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading water
> sort
> > > > > of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The
sump
> is
> > > > > pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is
the
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water would
be
> > > > > more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank. I
> > > > > don't know if this would help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul Vincent Craven
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.cravenfamily.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Cobb
November 14th 03, 02:23 PM
That's interesting... can you tell me more about the sock thingy?

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> I can't for the life of me imagine why one would want a pre-filter on
their
> overflow. I use a micron sock in the sump as needed for fine mechanical
> filtering. Seems to me to be less hassle and better fail safe as in if it
> plugs up, no trouble, water overflows and spills right into the sump as
> opposed to out the top of the tank if it were a plugged up pre-filter. I
> think that building one for it would be rather trivial though, getting one
> to actually work well might be a pain however.
>
> --
> --
>
> My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
>
>
>
> "Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
> news:4bYsb.412$vJ6.242@fed1read05...
> > That's cool.. but it seems to prevent you from using a pre-filter on the
> > overflow.
> >
> > "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Sorry if I misread that... "The tank has an in-tank overflow, which is
> > > really loud." Made me think you had a drilled tank. If you haven't
> then
> > I
> > > think the "Stockman Standpipe" is what you may want to look at.
> > >
> > > http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe-ken_stockman.htm
is
> > one
> > > location... there are others. I haven't played with it, but am sure
> > > something like it is workable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > >
> > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
> > > news:4eWsb.390$vJ6.179@fed1read05...
> > > > Hmmm that looks good for a "drilled" tank.. any ideas for tanks with
a
> > > > H.O.T. overflow?
> > > >
> > > > "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my
> > > overflow
> > > > up
> > > > > take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major
> > remodeling
> > > > of
> > > > > the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did
me.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
> > > > > om...
> > > > > > I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an
> in-tank
> > > > > > overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading
water
> > sort
> > > > > > of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The
> sump
> > is
> > > > > > pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube is
> the
> > > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water
would
> be
> > > > > > more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the tank.
I
> > > > > > don't know if this would help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Vincent Craven
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.cravenfamily.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Benjamin
November 14th 03, 06:49 PM
Dave,

There are a number of different way to set it up but the basic idea is to
use a bag similar to this:
http://www.marinedepot.com/a_fm_sock.asp?CartId
They had a hang-on bracket and filter sock set on the site, but I can't seem
to find it now. There are many other places that have them in all sorts of
sizes and styles. You could even buy just the fabric and make your own.
Build or buy a bracket, or run it without a bracket.

I do not run mine all the time. I use it just when cleaning the tank, or I
think it needs it. Many do run them 24/7 swapping them out for clean ones
at least once a week. Then washing them by various methods such as pressure
washer, regular washing machine (on rinse cycle with no soap), soaking in
bleach, etc.. Some set them up so that they are catching both tank and
skimmer output. Many say this also helps with micro bubbles.

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"Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
news:Hz5tb.458$vJ6.388@fed1read05...
> That's interesting... can you tell me more about the sock thingy?
>
> "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I can't for the life of me imagine why one would want a pre-filter on
> their
> > overflow. I use a micron sock in the sump as needed for fine mechanical
> > filtering. Seems to me to be less hassle and better fail safe as in if
it
> > plugs up, no trouble, water overflows and spills right into the sump as
> > opposed to out the top of the tank if it were a plugged up pre-filter.
I
> > think that building one for it would be rather trivial though, getting
one
> > to actually work well might be a pain however.
> >
> > --
> > --
> >
> > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
> > news:4bYsb.412$vJ6.242@fed1read05...
> > > That's cool.. but it seems to prevent you from using a pre-filter on
the
> > > overflow.
> > >
> > > "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Sorry if I misread that... "The tank has an in-tank overflow, which
is
> > > > really loud." Made me think you had a drilled tank. If you
haven't
> > then
> > > I
> > > > think the "Stockman Standpipe" is what you may want to look at.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe-ken_stockman.htm
> is
> > > one
> > > > location... there are others. I haven't played with it, but am sure
> > > > something like it is workable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Cobb" > wrote in message
> > > > news:4eWsb.390$vJ6.179@fed1read05...
> > > > > Hmmm that looks good for a "drilled" tank.. any ideas for tanks
with
> a
> > > > > H.O.T. overflow?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have a Oceanic 75. To see what I went through to shut my
> > > > overflow
> > > > > up
> > > > > > take the link to my standpipe page. I have done recent major
> > > remodeling
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the site to make it more barable. I hope it helps you as it did
> me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/hardware/standpipe.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My Web Site: http://showcase.netins.net/web/reefpage/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Paul Vincent Craven" > wrote in message
> > > > > > om...
> > > > > > > I've got an Oceanic 75 system I bought used. The tank has an
> > in-tank
> > > > > > > overflow, which is really loud. Not in a pleasent cascading
> water
> > > sort
> > > > > > > of way, but in a never-ending flushing toilet sort of way. The
> > sump
> > > is
> > > > > > > pretty quiet, but the process of water falling into the tube
is
> > the
> > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought about putting an elbow of the intake so the water
> would
> > be
> > > > > > > more of a 'slide' in, rather than a straight fall into the
tank.
> I
> > > > > > > don't know if this would help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone have good tips on silencing the overflow?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul Vincent Craven
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.cravenfamily.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>