snails dying

[Mike Silver]

I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike

[Rod]

Maybe the "cyanobacteria is actually a dinoflaggalate (spelling?) bloom. Some
dinos are toxic to snails.. Does what you thought was cyano look like brown
stringy snott?

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>I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
>Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
>bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
>the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
>have been a snail virus?
>
>Any help would be great.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Mike Silver]

In article >,
(Rod) wrote:

> Maybe the "cyanobacteria is actually a dinoflaggalate (spelling?) bloom. Some
> dinos are toxic to snails.. Does what you thought was cyano look like brown
> stringy snott?
>
> >
> >I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
> >Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> >bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> >the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> >have been a snail virus?
> >
> >Any help would be great.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes definately could be dino's, it probably could be a combo of both.

I use RO/DI water (high silicate removal system) this should help with
diatoms but what about dinoflagalates?

What could be another source? I am using Kent poly-ox to try and fix
red slime/cyano and it seems to be helping slowly but would like snails
back to help with all algae!!

what would a good dino eater?

mike

[Robert L]

Hi..... make sure your tank is not getting too hot durring the day. Just a
thought... that happen to me once... Also check the nitrates reguardless of
what kind of top off water you are using.


Robert L


"Mike Silver" > wrote in message
...
> I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
> Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> have been a snail virus?
>
> Any help would be great.
>
> Mike

[Mike Silver]

In article >,
"Robert L" > wrote:

> Hi..... make sure your tank is not getting too hot durring the day. Just a
> thought... that happen to me once... Also check the nitrates reguardless of
> what kind of top off water you are using.
>
>
> Robert L
>
>
> "Mike Silver" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
> > Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> > bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> > the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> > have been a snail virus?
> >
> > Any help would be great.
> >
> > Mike
>
>

I never get above 78 degrees, maybe 80 degrees max. Would temp affect
snails before it bleaches corals? All corals are doing fine. (soft and
hard)

mike

[Rod]

>what would a good dino eater?

a siphon tube and water changes, Good aggressive carbon usage will help too.

Also read this little article on temps.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030218193420/www.animalnetwork.com/fish2/aqfm
/1997/nov/features/1/default.asp

[LarryT]

The snails probably died b/c they had no food...or the food they had was
covered in red slime. You won't find a natural eater of red slime b/c it's
actually a bacteria, not an algae or organic. Are your lights old? I have
seen that cause an outbreak more than once in my tank. Water changes may
help, but many times you need it will just run its coarse.

While I am strongly opposed to using chemicals in a reef, I have in the past
as a very very very last resort. There is a product called Slime Away that
will take care of it. You could also use erythromycin. Worst case you
could use clout - this works on flatworm BTW. Both will clean it up. Make
sure to follow with carbon a day or two after you finish treatments and
replace the carbon each day for 2-3 days (carbon is pretty much useless
after the 1st 12 hours in a tank). Clout is the only chemical I have seen
to really irritate the corals & clams, so be careful on dosing.

HTH
LT


"Mike Silver" > wrote in message
...
>I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
> Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> have been a snail virus?
>
> Any help would be great.
>
> Mike

[Ian]

Mike Silver wrote:

<snip>

>
> Yes definately could be dino's, it probably could be a combo of both.
>
> I use RO/DI water (high silicate removal system) this should help with
> diatoms but what about dinoflagalates?
>
> What could be another source? I am using Kent poly-ox to try and fix
> red slime/cyano and it seems to be helping slowly but would like snails
> back to help with all algae!!
>
> what would a good dino eater?
>
> mike

Nothing eats dinos as far as I know, and their appearance is usually due
to a water quality issue. Do you measure phosphates? Every dino
outbreak I've experienced is at least coincidental with measureable
phosphate levels.
-Ian

[PaulB]

It is most likely that there was some disease or parasite in the new snails
that killed them all. I suspect that if you just waited a few weeks and
added new snails they would be fine.

Snails are full of parasites naturally.



"Mike Silver" > wrote in message
...
> I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
> Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> have been a snail virus?
>
> Any help would be great.
>
> Mike
>

[Robert L]

My tank got to 86 deg awhile back when I forgot to turn on the fans... Two
snails are MIA the same day. Corals did fine. Could have been coincidence.
One time a freind of mine had his snails die.. the nitrates came out of
seemingly no-where and where off the chart. Fish and corals fine... Even the
acro's!! (Although the nitrates where'nt there long via huge water change.)




"Mike Silver" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Robert L" > wrote:
>
> > Hi..... make sure your tank is not getting too hot durring the day. Just
a
> > thought... that happen to me once... Also check the nitrates reguardless
of
> > what kind of top off water you are using.
> >
> >
> > Robert L
> >
> >
> > "Mike Silver" > wrote in message
> >
...
> > > I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita
Snails,
> > > Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> > > bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> > > the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> > > have been a snail virus?
> > >
> > > Any help would be great.
> > >
> > > Mike
> >
> >
>
> I never get above 78 degrees, maybe 80 degrees max. Would temp affect
> snails before it bleaches corals? All corals are doing fine. (soft and
> hard)
>
> mike
>

[Chris & Tanya]

Try this article, it might help explain why lost your snails, at the very
least its extra information, which we all benefit from.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rs/index.htm



"Mike Silver" > wrote in message
...
> I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
> Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
> bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
> the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
> have been a snail virus?
>
> Any help would be great.
>
> Mike