snails dying

I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike

Maybe the "cyanobacteria is actually a dinoflaggalate (spelling?) bloom. Some
dinos are toxic to snails.. Does what you thought was cyano look like brown
stringy snott?


I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike

In article ,
(Rod) wrote:

Maybe the "cyanobacteria is actually a dinoflaggalate (spelling?) bloom. Some
dinos are toxic to snails.. Does what you thought was cyano look like brown
stringy snott?


I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike









Yes definately could be dino's, it probably could be a combo of both.

I use RO/DI water (high silicate removal system) this should help with
diatoms but what about dinoflagalates?

What could be another source? I am using Kent poly-ox to try and fix
red slime/cyano and it seems to be helping slowly but would like snails
back to help with all algae!!

what would a good dino eater?

mike

what would a good dino eater?

a siphon tube and water changes, Good aggressive carbon usage will help too.

Also read this little article on temps.
http://web.archive.org/web/200302181...com/fish2/aqfm
/1997/nov/features/1/default.asp

Mike Silver wrote:

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Yes definately could be dino's, it probably could be a combo of both.

I use RO/DI water (high silicate removal system) this should help with
diatoms but what about dinoflagalates?

What could be another source? I am using Kent poly-ox to try and fix
red slime/cyano and it seems to be helping slowly but would like snails
back to help with all algae!!

what would a good dino eater?

mike

Nothing eats dinos as far as I know, and their appearance is usually due
to a water quality issue. Do you measure phosphates? Every dino
outbreak I've experienced is at least coincidental with measureable
phosphate levels.
-Ian

Hi..... make sure your tank is not getting too hot durring the day. Just a
thought... that happen to me once... Also check the nitrates reguardless of
what kind of top off water you are using.


Robert L


"Mike Silver" wrote in message
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I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike

In article ,
"Robert L" wrote:

Hi..... make sure your tank is not getting too hot durring the day. Just a
thought... that happen to me once... Also check the nitrates reguardless of
what kind of top off water you are using.


Robert L


"Mike Silver" wrote in message
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I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike



I never get above 78 degrees, maybe 80 degrees max. Would temp affect
snails before it bleaches corals? All corals are doing fine. (soft and
hard)

mike

My tank got to 86 deg awhile back when I forgot to turn on the fans... Two
snails are MIA the same day. Corals did fine. Could have been coincidence.
One time a freind of mine had his snails die.. the nitrates came out of
seemingly no-where and where off the chart. Fish and corals fine... Even the
acro's!! (Although the nitrates where'nt there long via huge water change.)




"Mike Silver" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Robert L" wrote:

Hi..... make sure your tank is not getting too hot durring the day. Just
a
thought... that happen to me once... Also check the nitrates reguardless
of
what kind of top off water you are using.


Robert L


"Mike Silver" wrote in message

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I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita
Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike



I never get above 78 degrees, maybe 80 degrees max. Would temp affect
snails before it bleaches corals? All corals are doing fine. (soft and
hard)

mike

The snails probably died b/c they had no food...or the food they had was
covered in red slime. You won't find a natural eater of red slime b/c it's
actually a bacteria, not an algae or organic. Are your lights old? I have
seen that cause an outbreak more than once in my tank. Water changes may
help, but many times you need it will just run its coarse.

While I am strongly opposed to using chemicals in a reef, I have in the past
as a very very very last resort. There is a product called Slime Away that
will take care of it. You could also use erythromycin. Worst case you
could use clout - this works on flatworm BTW. Both will clean it up. Make
sure to follow with carbon a day or two after you finish treatments and
replace the carbon each day for 2-3 days (carbon is pretty much useless
after the 1st 12 hours in a tank). Clout is the only chemical I have seen
to really irritate the corals & clams, so be careful on dosing.

HTH
LT


"Mike Silver" wrote in message
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I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike

It is most likely that there was some disease or parasite in the new snails
that killed them all. I suspect that if you just waited a few weeks and
added new snails they would be fine.

Snails are full of parasites naturally.



"Mike Silver" wrote in message
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I have lost pretty well all my snails Astrea Snails, Margarita Snails,
Cerith Snails. This happened after getting a few new snails which I
bought to try and control a outbreak of cyanobacteria/red slime. Did
the outbreak kill the snails? Should I get turbos instead? Could it
have been a snail virus?

Any help would be great.

Mike