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[dave349]

hi, this is my first post here, i think (may have posted one other on
here before). anyways, so i have a birthday coming up next month and
i'm looking to get a bigger aquarium than the 29g that i have now. I'm
looking at getting a 55-72g, and originally i was thinking of getting
balas and oscars, but now i'm thinking of maybe a cichlid only tank. I
definately want at least one oscar, but i don't want just one fish all
by it self in there so what other fish couldi put in there? i heard
somewhere that a jack dempsey could be a good tankmate, but i heard
they are extremely territorial fish, convicts were other fish i have
wanted to put in my 29g, but someone said they would terrorize the 5
gouramis i have there, so maybe those could go in with oscars? there's
somebody who lives nearby who's convicts keep breeding and is selling
baby's at $0.50 ea.

[dave349]

i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
give me any tips or info on JD's?

On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, "dave349" > wrote:
> hi, this is my first post here, i think (may have posted one other on
> here before). anyways, so i have a birthday coming up next month and
> i'm looking to get a bigger aquarium than the 29g that i have now. I'm
> looking at getting a 55-72g, and originally i was thinking of getting
> balas and oscars, but now i'm thinking of maybe a cichlid only tank. I
> definately want at least one oscar, but i don't want just one fish all
> by it self in there so what other fish couldi put in there? i heard
> somewhere that a jack dempsey could be a good tankmate, but i heard
> they are extremely territorial fish, convicts were other fish i have
> wanted to put in my 29g, but someone said they would terrorize the 5
> gouramis i have there, so maybe those could go in with oscars? there's
> somebody who lives nearby who's convicts keep breeding and is selling
> baby's at $0.50 ea.

[John]

"dave349" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
> in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
> Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
> will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
> give me any tips or info on JD's?
>
Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care
for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you
could just find a breeding pair.
http://www.aquabid.com/ This is a good place to look.

Good luck,
John

[dave349]

oh sorry i forgot to mention, i have found a place in my city that
sells tanks for cheap, for now i'm going to get a 75g-150g, but most
likely around 90 or 100g

On Jan 25, 8:42 am, "John" > wrote:
> "dave349" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...>i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
> > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
> > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
> > will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
> > give me any tips or info on JD's?Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care
> for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you
> could just find a breeding pair.http://www.aquabid.com/This is a good place to look.
>
> Good luck,
> John

[dave349]

On Jan 25, 8:42 am, "John" > wrote:
> "dave349" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...>i guess this group has pretty much shut down then? no answers? anyways,
> > in case any one does answer, i've changed my mind and i'm going for a
> > Jack Dempsey tank, with the hopes of getting a breeding pair. I know i
> > will need at least 6 in order to find a pair, but coudl any one else
> > give me any tips or info on JD's?Jacks get upto 10" long. 6 in a 55 is way too many. They are easy to care
> for but will always be digging in the gravel and uprooting plants. Maybe you
> could just find a breeding pair.http://www.aquabid.com/This is a good place to look.
>
> Good luck,
> John

[Edward]

Hi Dave, I used to have a 125 gallon mixed south american chiclid tank.
A lot of these fish can be mixed, but make no mistake even a 55 gallon
tank is not that big to these fish. I read that you have gouramies with
your chiclids, unless there large gouramies they will eventually be
outgrown by your chiclids. Bala sharks are not an aggresive fish, they
may be bullied by larger fish.If you need any other advice or help you
can post here(I check stuff here about every week) or write me direct
under the subject matter "Tropical Fish"
Good Luck, Ed

[Edward]

P.S. You should be able to sex JD's at about 3 to 4 " , males will have
longer fins, just like convicts

[dave349]

ok thanks ed!, i have definately moved past the 55g idea, and am
looking now at at least a 75, but mostlikely a 90+ tank. as for
gouramis, those are in my 29g tank, and theres no cichlids in there,
just 2 dwarf gouramis, 3 pygmy gouramis, 5 zebra danios and 3 serpae
tetras. i do not have any cichlids in the house at the moment, i am
planning on getting some after i get a big tank and it is cycled. and
as of right now, i was planning on getting about 6 JD's to try and
breed them, but i just do not have enough "grow out" tanks. so i am
looking for cichlids that can mix.i was thinking maybe some convicts,
and/or and couple oscars, with plans for another 55ish tank that i
could move the oscars into when ever the convicts breed, or a tank
divider.

On Jan 28, 12:49 pm, (Edward) wrote:
> Hi Dave, I used to have a 125 gallon mixed south american chiclid tank.
> A lot of these fish can be mixed, but make no mistake even a 55 gallon
> tank is not that big to these fish. I read that you have gouramies with
> your chiclids, unless there large gouramies they will eventually be
> outgrown by your chiclids. Bala sharks are not an aggresive fish, they
> may be bullied by larger fish.If you need any other advice or help you
> can post here(I check stuff here about every week) or write me direct
> under the subject matter "Tropical Fish"
> Good Luck, Ed
>
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[Edward]

With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months.
Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas
Chiclids, Jack Dempseys, Large Black Sharks, Firemouths,Jewel Chiclids,
Clown Knife Fish, and a large Leopard Eel. My catfish of choice was a
Marble Shovelnose.

[dave349]

all those fish you've just mentioned are pretty much what i've been
looking into, except for the eel, my mom has a no "no eel" rule, they
creep her out lol.

On Jan 28, 6:53 pm, (Edward) wrote:
> With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months.
> Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas
> Chiclids, Jack Dempseys, Large Black Sharks, Firemouths,Jewel Chiclids,
> Clown Knife Fish, and a large Leopard Eel. My catfish of choice was a
> Marble Shovelnose.
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[dave349]

currently i'm thinking of a set up of liek this

- 2 or 3 convicts
- a jack dempsey and/or an oscar
-and maybe a texas cichlid or a couple bala sharks or red tail shark.

On Jan 28, 7:21 pm, "dave349" > wrote:
> all those fish you've just mentioned are pretty much what i've been
> looking into, except for the eel, my mom has a no "no eel" rule, they
> creep her out lol.
>
> On Jan 28, 6:53 pm, (Edward) wrote:
>
> > With good conditions convicts will breed about every couple of months.
> > Some other fish I used to have in my big tank were Convicts, Texas
> > Chiclids, Jack Dempseys, Large Black Sharks, Firemouths,Jewel Chiclids,
> > Clown Knife Fish, and a large Leopard Eel. My catfish of choice was a
> > Marble Shovelnose.
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[Edward]

Everything there is good except the bala sharks and redtail, bala sharks
are non aggressive, and red tails won't be big enough

[dave349]

oh ok then, so a

3 convict
1 JD or 1 oscar
1 texas
and some other larger cichlid

would be a good set up?

On Jan 29, 9:30 am, (Edward) wrote:
> Everything there is good except the bala sharks and redtail, bala sharks
> are non aggressive, and red tails won't be big enough
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[Edward]

Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the
3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger,
2 JD's, and 2 texas. Of coarse you'll need a scavenger of some
type,(Pleco, Channel Cat). Try to get pairs on the cichlids, they'll be
happier that way.

[dave349]

well i was thinking about pairs, but the problem i thought would be is
if i got 2 male, wouldn't they always be constantly fighting? if i got
2 females it woudl probably be ok and if i got a male and female
that'd be fine.

On Jan 29, 4:37 pm, (Edward) wrote:
> Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the
> 3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger,
> 2 JD's, and 2 texas. Of coarse you'll need a scavenger of some
> type,(Pleco, Channel Cat). Try to get pairs on the cichlids, they'll be
> happier that way.
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[Edward]

The only ones you won't be able to sex are the oscars, all the others
can be sexed by the length of there dorsal fins, and two male oscars
will be ok together

[dave349]

On Jan 29, 7:11 pm, "dave349" > wrote:
> well i was thinking about pairs, but the problem i thought would be is
> if i got 2 male, wouldn't they always be constantly fighting? if i got
> 2 females it woudl probably be ok and if i got a male and female
> that'd be fine.
>
> On Jan 29, 4:37 pm, (Edward) wrote:
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> > Depending on the size your gonna set up, I'd start with 2 convicts(the
> > 3rd will cause problems) 2 Oscars, do like one albino and one red tiger,
> > 2 JD's, and 2 texas. Of coarse you'll need a scavenger of some
> > type,(Pleco, Channel Cat). Try to get pairs on the cichlids, they'll be
> > happier that way.
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just i heard there's no real way to tell males and females apart when
they're young.

[dave349]

oh ok thanks!

Edward wrote:
> The only ones you won't be able to sex are the oscars, all the others
> can be sexed by the length of there dorsal fins, and two male oscars
> will be ok together
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[markenejackson]

I acclimated to accept a 125 gallon alloyed south american chiclid tank. A lot of these angle can be mixed, but accomplish no aberration even a 55 gallon tank is not that big to these fish. I apprehend that you accept gouramies with your chiclids, unless there ample gouramies they will eventually be outgrown by your chiclids. Bala sharks are not an aggresive fish, they may be afraid by beyond fish.