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Adam P.
January 6th 04, 05:36 PM
Hello All,

Firsto of all I have to apologise for my bad "english".

I have two goldfishes from 2001. I have 60 l aquarium, with plants, and
2 filters. Tank is well cycled. Tests of NO2 and NO3 are showinf always
minimal level (I am using TETRA and SERA tests). I am doing partial
water changes every week.

About 3 weeks ago one of my biological filters was accidentaly
disconnected from power, and second filter was too small to provide
enough filtration. By somwe days (maybe one week) quality of water went
down, it was really smelling, whan I found whats happend.

Now one of my goldfishes is floating as buoy on the surface of water.
Even during feeding I sow that this goldfish had troubles to get fod
from bottom of aquarium. It looks that fish swim bladder is full of gas.

I already make 4 days without any food, and next only green peas, but
without result. Today I wil prepare hospital tank to make salt dip tomorrow.

I do have two questions:
1) If swim bladder is attacked by some bacterial/virus infection will
salt dip will help?
2) What are the others methods of curing this disease? I found on Polish
aquarium newsgroup that disease happends to significant number of
goldfishes.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Adam

Carlos
January 7th 04, 03:40 AM
swim bladder disease is do to many factors, one is a small bladder on
ornamental carps, other is air intake when they feed from the surface.

hope this helps


"Adam P." > wrote in message
...
> Hello All,
>
> Firsto of all I have to apologise for my bad "english".
>
> I have two goldfishes from 2001. I have 60 l aquarium, with plants, and
> 2 filters. Tank is well cycled. Tests of NO2 and NO3 are showinf always
> minimal level (I am using TETRA and SERA tests). I am doing partial
> water changes every week.
>
> About 3 weeks ago one of my biological filters was accidentaly
> disconnected from power, and second filter was too small to provide
> enough filtration. By somwe days (maybe one week) quality of water went
> down, it was really smelling, whan I found whats happend.
>
> Now one of my goldfishes is floating as buoy on the surface of water.
> Even during feeding I sow that this goldfish had troubles to get fod
> from bottom of aquarium. It looks that fish swim bladder is full of gas.
>
> I already make 4 days without any food, and next only green peas, but
> without result. Today I wil prepare hospital tank to make salt dip
tomorrow.
>
> I do have two questions:
> 1) If swim bladder is attacked by some bacterial/virus infection will
> salt dip will help?
> 2) What are the others methods of curing this disease? I found on Polish
> aquarium newsgroup that disease happends to significant number of
> goldfishes.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
>
> Adam
>

January 7th 04, 04:11 AM
yes, due to toxic water conditions.
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/symptom/symptom.htm#floating
problems
clean water.. and try Chinese method with water just over the back and walking the
fish. Ingrid

"Adam P." > wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>Firsto of all I have to apologise for my bad "english".
>
>I have two goldfishes from 2001. I have 60 l aquarium, with plants, and
>2 filters. Tank is well cycled. Tests of NO2 and NO3 are showinf always
>minimal level (I am using TETRA and SERA tests). I am doing partial
>water changes every week.
>
>About 3 weeks ago one of my biological filters was accidentaly
>disconnected from power, and second filter was too small to provide
>enough filtration. By somwe days (maybe one week) quality of water went
>down, it was really smelling, whan I found whats happend.
>
>Now one of my goldfishes is floating as buoy on the surface of water.
>Even during feeding I sow that this goldfish had troubles to get fod
>from bottom of aquarium. It looks that fish swim bladder is full of gas.
>
>I already make 4 days without any food, and next only green peas, but
>without result. Today I wil prepare hospital tank to make salt dip tomorrow.
>
>I do have two questions:
>1) If swim bladder is attacked by some bacterial/virus infection will
>salt dip will help?
>2) What are the others methods of curing this disease? I found on Polish
>aquarium newsgroup that disease happends to significant number of
>goldfishes.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance,
>
>Adam



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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Adam P.
January 7th 04, 07:28 AM
If my fish was already 4 days without food, adn I day with small rations
of green peas shall I repeat full 4 days cycle of Chinese Water method
without food?

Thanks for help,
Adam


wrote:
> yes, due to toxic water conditions.
> http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/disease/symptom/symptom.htm#floating
> problems
> clean water.. and try Chinese method with water just over the back and walking the
> fish. Ingrid
>
> "Adam P." > wrote:
>
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>Firsto of all I have to apologise for my bad "english".
>>
>>I have two goldfishes from 2001. I have 60 l aquarium, with plants, and
>>2 filters. Tank is well cycled. Tests of NO2 and NO3 are showinf always
>>minimal level (I am using TETRA and SERA tests). I am doing partial
>>water changes every week.
>>
>>About 3 weeks ago one of my biological filters was accidentaly
>>disconnected from power, and second filter was too small to provide
>>enough filtration. By somwe days (maybe one week) quality of water went
>>down, it was really smelling, whan I found whats happend.
>>
>>Now one of my goldfishes is floating as buoy on the surface of water.
>>Even during feeding I sow that this goldfish had troubles to get fod
>
>>from bottom of aquarium. It looks that fish swim bladder is full of gas.
>
>>I already make 4 days without any food, and next only green peas, but
>>without result. Today I wil prepare hospital tank to make salt dip tomorrow.
>>
>>I do have two questions:
>>1) If swim bladder is attacked by some bacterial/virus infection will
>>salt dip will help?
>>2) What are the others methods of curing this disease? I found on Polish
>>aquarium newsgroup that disease happends to significant number of
>>goldfishes.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance,
>>
>>Adam
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

January 7th 04, 03:05 PM
yes.

"Adam P." > wrote:

>If my fish was already 4 days without food, adn I day with small rations
>of green peas shall I repeat full 4 days cycle of Chinese Water method
>without food?
>
>Thanks for help,
>Adam



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Adam P.
January 7th 04, 05:53 PM
Thanks a lot for advice. I know PUREGOLD,
(http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold) its an excelent source of
GF informations. Unfortunately from today I cannot access it. I tryied
using IE, Opera and Netrscape browsers. In every case result was the
same: PAGE NOT FOUND.

Thanks the god I have found some old printout from this page describing
Chinese Water method. Well, I hope that I have understod it corectly -
tube should be inside aquarium? What about aeration? What kind of tube
(matrerial shouldn't stop oxygen I guess?

regards,
Adam


wrote:
> yes.
>
> "Adam P." > wrote:
>
>
>>If my fish was already 4 days without food, adn I day with small rations
>>of green peas shall I repeat full 4 days cycle of Chinese Water method
>>without food?
>>
>>Thanks for help,
>>Adam
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

Adam P.
January 7th 04, 06:02 PM
Ok, I found new link in post from Ingrid:
for now, http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/home.html will get to the
pages. go to disease and then floating

Ingrid

Thanks a lot one time more :-)
Adam

wrote:
> yes.
>
> "Adam P." > wrote:
>
>
>>If my fish was already 4 days without food, adn I day with small rations
>>of green peas shall I repeat full 4 days cycle of Chinese Water method
>>without food?
>>
>>Thanks for help,
>>Adam

January 8th 04, 04:51 PM
heater should be set in the tank so the fish cannot sit on it and burn themself.
aeration is not as big an issue cause the depth of the water is so low that the water
oxygenates pretty well. walking the fish is important as is keeping that water
absolutely clean. Ingrid

"Adam P." > wrote:
>Thanks the god I have found some old printout from this page describing
>Chinese Water method. Well, I hope that I have understod it corectly -
>tube should be inside aquarium? What about aeration? What kind of tube
>(matrerial shouldn't stop oxygen I guess?
>
>regards,
>Adam


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.