upgrade to an external pump?

My pond is 10x12 about 2 1/2 feet average depth and kidney shaped
I have been using a sump from Home Depot in conjunction with a
biofilter with built in UV light. Seems to work ok, but I hate having
to clean it by pulling it out of the pond and I fear it breaking and
spilling oil all over. What would be a good external pump setup for
me? Do you reccomend a bell shaped bottom drain? Any suggestions?
Power consumption seems high on this pump too
Thanks

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My pond is 10x12 about 2 1/2 feet average depth and kidney shaped
I have been using a sump from Home Depot in conjunction with a
biofilter with built in UV light. Seems to work ok, but I hate having
to clean it by pulling it out of the pond and I fear it breaking and
spilling oil all over. What would be a good external pump setup for
me? Do you reccomend a bell shaped bottom drain? Any suggestions?
Power consumption seems high on this pump too
Thanks

Hi Phil,

At my website you'll see a diagram of how we did an out-of-the-pond filter
using bottom drain and skimmer without going thru the liner. Click on *My
Filter* there is also more filter information under *Demon Pond Filter*
and *My Lily Pond*. ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

If you are having problems with the in pond pump stopping up, then you may
have problems with an external pump clogging also, unless you put in some
sort of settling basin, or strainer in front of the pump. I have 3 Sequence
pumps running on 2 ponds with skimmers that have media pad, bottom drains
going to vortex separators with hardware cloth over the outflow pipe and
then to the pumps to send to the filters. I started off without any
strainers or hardware cloth and sucked up two frogs within the first month,
had to cut the plumbing to get them out of the elbow. One of the frogs had
a leg amputated in the process, but survived at least until sometime the
next year. I would recommend the large leaf trap that is available for the
external pumps to keep the big stuff out of the pump.

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My pond is 10x12 about 2 1/2 feet average depth and kidney shaped
I have been using a sump from Home Depot in conjunction with a
biofilter with built in UV light. Seems to work ok, but I hate having
to clean it by pulling it out of the pond and I fear it breaking and
spilling oil all over. What would be a good external pump setup for
me? Do you reccomend a bell shaped bottom drain? Any suggestions?
Power consumption seems high on this pump too
Thanks

jan,
Was your site that got me thinging. Looks liek a great setup. DO you
have specefic reccomendations as to particular pumps?
"RichToyBox" wrote in message news:TTySc.237920$a24.61881@attbi_s03...
If you are having problems with the in pond pump stopping up, then you may
have problems with an external pump clogging also, unless you put in some
sort of settling basin, or strainer in front of the pump. I have 3 Sequence
pumps running on 2 ponds with skimmers that have media pad, bottom drains
going to vortex separators with hardware cloth over the outflow pipe and
then to the pumps to send to the filters. I started off without any
strainers or hardware cloth and sucked up two frogs within the first month,
had to cut the plumbing to get them out of the elbow. One of the frogs had
a leg amputated in the process, but survived at least until sometime the
next year. I would recommend the large leaf trap that is available for the
external pumps to keep the big stuff out of the pump.

--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/index.html
wrote in message
om...
My pond is 10x12 about 2 1/2 feet average depth and kidney shaped
I have been using a sump from Home Depot in conjunction with a
biofilter with built in UV light. Seems to work ok, but I hate having
to clean it by pulling it out of the pond and I fear it breaking and
spilling oil all over. What would be a good external pump setup for
me? Do you reccomend a bell shaped bottom drain? Any suggestions?
Power consumption seems high on this pump too
Thanks

On 12 Aug 2004 10:47:58 -0700, wrote:

jan,
Was your site that got me thinging. Looks liek a great setup. DO you
have specefic reccomendations as to particular pumps?

I've been using Becket's, but there are more energy efficient ones, I'm
switching the D.pond over to Supreme Mag Drives when the time comes. The
Beckets have been very dependable, lasting 7 to 8 seasons in this set up.
I'll let you know on the Supremes/Danner brand, but it may be awhile. ;o)
One I don't recommend is the Ebara, it only lasted 3 seasons and was really
noisy the last couple of months before it died. It was also very stubborn
to start up in the spring. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

whats a good model becket for a 1500 gal pond?
what about the supreme mag drive ones? What make you want to try this type?
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in message . ..
On 12 Aug 2004 10:47:58 -0700, wrote:

jan,
Was your site that got me thinging. Looks liek a great setup. DO you
have specefic reccomendations as to particular pumps?

I've been using Becket's, but there are more energy efficient ones, I'm
switching the D.pond over to Supreme Mag Drives when the time comes. The
Beckets have been very dependable, lasting 7 to 8 seasons in this set up.
I'll let you know on the Supremes/Danner brand, but it may be awhile. ;o)
One I don't recommend is the Ebara, it only lasted 3 seasons and was really
noisy the last couple of months before it died. It was also very stubborn
to start up in the spring. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

On 12 Aug 2004 18:09:53 -0700,
) wrote:

whats a good model becket for a 1500 gal pond?
what about the supreme mag drive ones? What make you want to try this type?

I'm using the 1650 gph model on mine. I want to go to the other as they're
more energy efficient and I'd like a wee bit more flow. I know with head
that my flow is only around 1500 gph. I'd like to have it be more like 1800
gph. Becket only makes the 1650 and then jumps to 3600 or 3900 gph, for
some reason. So I'd have to use another type. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Would the supreme mag drive P106 be a good choice?
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in message . ..
On 12 Aug 2004 18:09:53 -0700,
) wrote:

whats a good model becket for a 1500 gal pond?
what about the supreme mag drive ones? What make you want to try this type?

I'm using the 1650 gph model on mine. I want to go to the other as they're
more energy efficient and I'd like a wee bit more flow. I know with head
that my flow is only around 1500 gph. I'd like to have it be more like 1800
gph. Becket only makes the 1650 and then jumps to 3600 or 3900 gph, for
some reason. So I'd have to use another type. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Or maybe this:
http://www.aqua-mart.com/show.pl?cmd...id=6&prodid=68
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in message . ..
On 12 Aug 2004 18:09:53 -0700,
) wrote:

whats a good model becket for a 1500 gal pond?
what about the supreme mag drive ones? What make you want to try this type?

I'm using the 1650 gph model on mine. I want to go to the other as they're
more energy efficient and I'd like a wee bit more flow. I know with head
that my flow is only around 1500 gph. I'd like to have it be more like 1800
gph. Becket only makes the 1650 and then jumps to 3600 or 3900 gph, for
some reason. So I'd have to use another type. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

On 14 Aug 2004 09:06:21 -0700,
) wrote:

Or maybe this:
http://www.aqua-mart.com/show.pl?cmd...id=6&prodid=68

Yes, and right now That Pet Place has them for $105. Item # DN0123. )

~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~