Burning Down the Pond

Really like my new pond, finally seem to have the surrounding drainage
problem and the Mysterious Water Loss After Heavy Rain problem fixed,
so now I'm thinking...

How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.

I wouldn't run it all the time, but it'd be a cool effect for parties.

Would there be any adverse repercussions to the fish?

Mike
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Sounds fine, as long as you like BBQd fish :-)

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"Mike Patterson" wrote in
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| Really like my new pond, finally seem to have the surrounding drainage
| problem and the Mysterious Water Loss After Heavy Rain problem fixed,
| so now I'm thinking...
|
| How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
| put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
| pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.
|
| I wouldn't run it all the time, but it'd be a cool effect for parties.
|
| Would there be any adverse repercussions to the fish?
|
| Mike
| Mike Patterson
| Please remove the spamtrap to email me.


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So you just came back from Las Vegas and saw Mirage?

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"Mike Patterson" wrote in
message ...
Really like my new pond, finally seem to have the surrounding drainage
problem and the Mysterious Water Loss After Heavy Rain problem fixed,
so now I'm thinking...

How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.

I wouldn't run it all the time, but it'd be a cool effect for parties.

Would there be any adverse repercussions to the fish?

Mike
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:43:53 GMT, "Just Me \"Koi\""
wrote:

So you just came back from Las Vegas and saw Mirage?

Now that you mention it, I forgot that I did see something like that
about 4 years ago in LV, but don't remember too much about it.

Maybe that's where my subconscious got it from.


Mike

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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:25:57 +1100, "Ken Russell"
wrote:

Sounds fine, as long as you like BBQd fish :-)

Well, the pond is about 1300 gallons, and heat rises, and it's
outside, so maybe it wouldn't raise the water temp much. I hope.

I think I'll do some experimentation first with a #10 washtub. See if
the water temp goes up, play with the effect, etc.

Might make a good bit for the web page too.

Mike Patterson
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Mike Patterson wrote:

How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.

One would need an automatic sparker to ignite the gas bubbles, and if
the concentration isn't enough, it is just a gas leak.

I wouldn't run it all the time, but it'd be a cool effect for parties.

Why not floating candles?

How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.

Does natural gas contain sulfur? If so, I seem to recall something
about Sulfur Dioxide (poison) or Hydrogen Sulfide (rotten egg smell)
being a possible byproduct when mixed with water. I'm sure some of
our chemistry experts will chime in on this one, as I've forgotten
much more about chemistry than I remember.

Jim
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 22:15:31 -0600, John Hines
wrote:

Mike Patterson wrote:

How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.

One would need an automatic sparker to ignite the gas bubbles, and if
the concentration isn't enough, it is just a gas leak.

I wouldn't run it all the time, but it'd be a cool effect for parties.

Why not floating candles?

'Cause I don't want no cutesy namby-pamby girly thing, I'm going for
-cool- not -cute-. :-)

But I appreciate the thought.

I already have a gas grill spark igniter I've been playing with, I
could just mount it on a 5' stick to light the flame.


Mike Patterson
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 22:15:02 -0500
Mike Patterson wrote:

Really like my new pond, finally seem to have the surrounding drainage
problem and the Mysterious Water Loss After Heavy Rain problem fixed,
so now I'm thinking...

How about if I run black gas pipe out to the the back end of the pond,
put on a valve there, then something like icemaker tubing into the
pond so that gas bubbles up near the center, then light it.

I wouldn't run it all the time, but it'd be a cool effect for parties.

Would there be any adverse repercussions to the fish?

Mike

I think the bubbles would be too intermittent to hold the flame unless
you were running more gas than you'd care to. (Unless you use a bubble
diffuser?) Maybe run the pipe almost to the surface so there's more of
a steady gas stream? That'd cut down on the water/gas interaction, too,
in case of any adverse reactions with the pond environment.

Cybe R. Wizard -/wants/ to see it in action!
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Mike Patterson wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:25:57 +1100, "Ken Russell"
wrote:


Sounds fine, as long as you like BBQd fish :-)


Well, the pond is about 1300 gallons, and heat rises, and it's
outside, so maybe it wouldn't raise the water temp much. I hope.


Mike

I put a concrete pad and gas line in next to where I am putting the new
pond in spring. I will be able to sit
in front of the campfire and watch the flames reflect off the pond and
the waterfall.

Here are some pics of the first design made from scrap parts.

http://ourkoipond.com/Fire1.jpg
http://ourkoipond.com/Fire2.jpg
http://ourkoipond.com/Fire3.jpg
http://ourkoipond.com/Fire4.jpg
http://ourkoipond.com/Fire5.jpg
http://ourkoipond.com/Fire6.jpg


I also thought of putting one in the center of the 24' dia. area of the
new 12,000gal. pond.

I put a pdf file on my website so you can check out the gas Heat~N~Glo
Campfire base Retail Price $260.00
http://ourkoipond.com/Patio Campfire.pdf

You can build your own stone base around it or add their Rock Ring Fire
Pit Surround: Retail $210.00
See
http://www.heatnglo-lifestyle.com/cu...rePitSpecs.pdf

This is a little too big for your 1300 gal pond, the fire base is 14"
square and the stone ring is 22" dia X 8" high.
But it's a thought.


Disclaimer == I have not, nor will I ever receive any compensation for
this recommendation.

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