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Old July 31st 03, 02:37 AM
RichToyBox
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This sounds like a new pond, and a new ponder. The algae carpet that forms
on the side of the pond is good, in that it provides for some of the
filtering of the pond, and it uses the nutrients needed by the floating
green algae. My recommendation for the green water that is making the pond
less than clear, is patience. But you should be getting the complete list
of things to do, including getting more plants in the pond.
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"AFE" wrote in message
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hey everyone...I have a problem with my pond and I cant figure it out

whatso
ever! i have a massive amount of green/brown algea forming on the entire
inside of the pond and im not sure if thats whats making the water unclear
or if its the water its self that is dirty..i have tried making the pond
deeper and adding a filter and large waterfall to it. this didnt work. i
have 4 plants providing a little shade. the pond is 13x12x2ftdeep. there

are
2 pumps pushing a HUGE amount of water through the waterfall which is

being
filtered....no matter how hard i try the pond becomes very hard to view

the
fish. i would realllly like the help from someone if they know my problem
and how to solve it..i spent alot of money on this and want to have a nice
pond




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Old July 31st 03, 02:55 AM
blah
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not sure if it matters...but the water is warm...its almost directly in the
front of our yard. so is this the source of all the algea? and approx how
long can this process of waiting take? also...i read that atleast 70% of the
surface of the pond needs to be cover by plants. i dont have that much. i
have less than 10%..the plants i have dont seem to grow enough to cover a
larger area...i bought a lily and it has about 8 or 9 pads and thats all
that have grown since i bought it.. do i need to buy like 10 of the 4inch
pots just to have that many pads to create the 70% of coverage?
"RichToyBox" wrote in message
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This sounds like a new pond, and a new ponder. The algae carpet that

forms
on the side of the pond is good, in that it provides for some of the
filtering of the pond, and it uses the nutrients needed by the floating
green algae. My recommendation for the green water that is making the

pond
less than clear, is patience. But you should be getting the complete list
of things to do, including getting more plants in the pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"AFE" wrote in message
news
hey everyone...I have a problem with my pond and I cant figure it out

whatso
ever! i have a massive amount of green/brown algea forming on the entire
inside of the pond and im not sure if thats whats making the water

unclear
or if its the water its self that is dirty..i have tried making the pond
deeper and adding a filter and large waterfall to it. this didnt work. i
have 4 plants providing a little shade. the pond is 13x12x2ftdeep. there

are
2 pumps pushing a HUGE amount of water through the waterfall which is

being
filtered....no matter how hard i try the pond becomes very hard to view

the
fish. i would realllly like the help from someone if they know my

problem
and how to solve it..i spent alot of money on this and want to have a

nice
pond






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Old July 31st 03, 02:57 AM
blah
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bye the way this is the same person who started the post (AHE)


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Old July 31st 03, 05:11 AM
Andrew Burgess
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"AFE" writes:

hey everyone...I have a problem with my pond and I cant figure it out whatso
ever! i have a massive amount of green/brown algea forming on the entire
inside of the pond and im not sure if thats whats making the water unclear
or if its the water its self that is dirty..i have tried making the pond
deeper and adding a filter and large waterfall to it. this didnt work. i
have 4 plants providing a little shade. the pond is 13x12x2ftdeep. there are
2 pumps pushing a HUGE amount of water through the waterfall which is being
filtered....no matter how hard i try the pond becomes very hard to view the
fish. i would realllly like the help from someone if they know my problem
and how to solve it..i spent alot of money on this and want to have a nice
pond


Spend a little more on a UV clarifier.


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Old July 31st 03, 07:20 AM
Just Me \Koi\
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RTB is right!

Patience and provide some cover over your pond to provide shade! Water
Hyacinth, Azollo, Duckweed, etc are other plants you can use. These plants
will help you in two ways, provide cover and take nutrients out of the
water!

I am not a UV person as I see them as totally un-natural!

Also you may be pushing too much water through your filter too fast! The
bio bugs need time to work on your water before returning to the pond!
Maybe reduce the amount of water going through your filter and send the
balance through a waterfall or other structure to help with aeration?

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bye the way this is the same person who started the post (AHE)




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Old July 31st 03, 01:26 PM
Chad
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I started out in a similar position in may/june of this year. I went
from 200 gallons to around 1350 gallons when I upgraded my pond. At
first I had about 10% coverage with plants, plus my purifalls was
filled with WH. My water turned to pea soup for about 2 weeks, then
only cleared to about 1 1/2 foot deep(The pond is 3 ft deep). During
the day the algae got worse when in full sun, after dark it cleared
some. I broke down and bought a UV Clarifier, installed it and it
cleared overnight. I have a nice covering of hair algae now that is
about 1/4 to 1/2 inches tall around almost all of the pond. I do get
some longer hair algae where there is no shade during the day. BTW, I
am about to 50 - 55% plant coverage now. My UV cost $106 -- shipped
to my house and I am really happy with it. Also, I don't use any
chemicals in my water.

On another note, I also maintain a reef aquarium. UV is one of the
best things I have seen for keeping the reef in top shape -- of course
the UV is not only clarifying the water, but sterilizing it of nasty
parasites that are waterborn. If I ever get into any more expensive
Koi I will get a UV that can sterilize the water to help protect the
investment.
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Old July 31st 03, 02:22 PM
blah
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yeah thats basically the problem i have right now....EXACTLY..i really
wouldnt like to buy a UV but looks like i may have to.......so for now im
going to try and get some more coverage of plants and apply the 2nd pump to
aeration of the pond instead of filtration. so.....the long waiting process.
Does anyone have any ideas for cheap plants or something that grows really
fast and supplys the amount of coverage i need? maybe i can work on this for
now?


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Old July 31st 03, 03:51 PM
BenignVanilla
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"AFE" wrote in message
news
hey everyone...I have a problem with my pond and I cant figure it out

whatso
ever! i have a massive amount of green/brown algea forming on the entire
inside of the pond and im not sure if thats whats making the water unclear
or if its the water its self that is dirty..i have tried making the pond
deeper and adding a filter and large waterfall to it. this didnt work. i
have 4 plants providing a little shade. the pond is 13x12x2ftdeep. there

are
2 pumps pushing a HUGE amount of water through the waterfall which is

being
filtered....no matter how hard i try the pond becomes very hard to view

the
fish. i would realllly like the help from someone if they know my problem
and how to solve it..i spent alot of money on this and want to have a nice
pond



*ahem*

STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND!!! It's the only way. If you have enough
filtration, plants, etc. All you need is a dosage of time.

BV.


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Old July 31st 03, 04:17 PM
K30a
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Blah wrote i understand that..i want to know about the filtration and plants
and
anything that can help me on my way......

what was your original question again?
and did I answer it?
;-)


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Old July 31st 03, 04:50 PM
blah
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hey k30a ....u didnt answer my ? before thats ok...
heres my current situation:
fairly new..month old 13x12x2feet deep pond.. i have massive amounts of
algea or scum or something building up. i can only view up to about a foot
down. i have about 10% plant coverage, 2 pumps, one is being filtered the
other is for aeration. 2 of the 4 plants i have are producing coverage.the
lily i have only has about 9 or10 pads now..wont seem to grow more...do i
need to buy like 6 containers of lilys? i would like to a way to help
clarify the water. Besides a UV. If needed.. i have 5 large comets. 1 koi, 2
bass, 3 sunnies(large). any ideas?


 




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