fish deformities

While observing fish at a koi show I spotted one that was for sale that had a
crooked face.

Why are some koi deformed?
Does this happen with other fish?
Where can I get info?

Was it the fish or the markings that made it look that way?
Breeders get rid of what is not top quality, they cant keep everything,
sometimes even what looks really bad maybe only something that happened to
that fish when it was young, if it was born that way, dont touch it unless
very very cheap or free, it may 'throw' that deformity into its offspring,
but an accident will not harm the offspring.
www.koivet.com


Judi9000 wrote in message
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While observing fish at a koi show I spotted one that was for sale that
had a
crooked face.

Why are some koi deformed?
Does this happen with other fish?
Where can I get info?

This ones face was crooked! He was with several other fish and the breeder
didn't notice it. I asked him about it because I was curious and had never seen
that before. He was a little bothered and kind of just acted like it wasn't
there. I was just wondering if these types of things happen with just koi or
all fish, and what causes it.

He still wanted to sell it, so he would make little of it. No it is not
common.


Judi9000 wrote in message
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This ones face was crooked! He was with several other fish and the breeder
didn't notice it. I asked him about it because I was curious and had never
seen
that before. He was a little bothered and kind of just acted like it
wasn't
there. I was just wondering if these types of things happen with just koi
or
all fish, and what causes it.

On 29 Oct 2003 04:02:38 GMT, (Judi9000) wrote:

This ones face was crooked! He was with several other fish and the breeder
didn't notice it. I asked him about it because I was curious and had never seen
that before. He was a little bothered and kind of just acted like it wasn't
there. I was just wondering if these types of things happen with just koi or
all fish, and what causes it.

Yes, it is common. It just isn't common to have one of much size show up at
a show for sale, imo. If it had pretty markings a crooked face would still
be a good pond quality fish. My biggest fish has a crooked mouth, gives her
personality, of the babies I've had survive from her none have had this
defect, but I'm sure if every one of her eggs were to survived we'd see a
lot more. ~ jan


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This one was just a solid white guy. Do you know what causes this?

On 03 Nov 2003 17:36:38 GMT, (Judi9000) wrote:

This one was just a solid white guy. Do you know what causes this?

Generics. ~ jan


See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
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I've never seen a crooked-face fish, but at one time a lot of the small
koi in the local pet stores (not speciality fish stores) looked quite
normal from above, but from the side it was apparent that their tails
were turned up. Normal fish profile up to the peduncle, I think it's
called, then a noticeable elbow -- looked about 25-30 degrees.

Some of them were pretty enough fish otherwise, and I seriously
considered them, but didn't know how serious the tail thing was. Haven't
seen them lately so either it was one "bad batch" due to conditions
during and shortly after spawning, or a genetic thing whose parents
haven't been spawning for those companies since. Anyway, would this type
of deformity cause problems?


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not sure, but why buy somebody's culls and if they were so poorly grown in the first
place what other hidden problems are there? Ingrid

Elizabeth Naime wrote:

I've never seen a crooked-face fish, but at one time a lot of the small
koi in the local pet stores (not speciality fish stores) looked quite
normal from above, but from the side it was apparent that their tails
were turned up. Normal fish profile up to the peduncle, I think it's
called, then a noticeable elbow -- looked about 25-30 degrees.

Some of them were pretty enough fish otherwise, and I seriously
considered them, but didn't know how serious the tail thing was. Haven't
seen them lately so either it was one "bad batch" due to conditions
during and shortly after spawning, or a genetic thing whose parents
haven't been spawning for those companies since. Anyway, would this type
of deformity cause problems?


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