air pump

hi,
im new here and have read quite a bit about ice on the pond and wondered if
an air pump located in our basement could force enough air thru a tube to
keep our pond free of ice with a hole large enough to allow gasses to
escape? it gets pretty cold up here 0 to 20 below
bill

Hi Bill - There are 2 possible problems with locating the pump inside your
basement - condensation and distance - the air in your basement will be
warmer than the outside air and will probably cause condensation in the
airline to collect and freeze up (I put my airpump in a small rubbermaid
container and locate it on top of my 45 gal bio filter and run the line ( ~
15') at a constant down slope to the airstone 3" below the water surface so
no condensation can accumulate - others here have had freeze ups from loops
or low spots in the airline ) - The longer the distance you pump whether
air or water, the less you get at discharge, although you could compensate
for that with the size of the pump and line
Gale :~)
"bill" wrote in message
...
hi,
im new here and have read quite a bit about ice on the pond and wondered
if
an air pump located in our basement could force enough air thru a tube to
keep our pond free of ice with a hole large enough to allow gasses to
escape? it gets pretty cold up here 0 to 20 below
bill

I put my air pump on the post that the electrical box lives on, DH straps it in
place with one of those zip ties. Then I up end a galvanized bucket over it,
fairly large one. The post is right next to the pond.


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

On 18 Oct 2004 17:38:14 GMT, EROSPAM (Ka30P) wrote:
I put my air pump on the post that the electrical box lives on, DH straps it in
place with one of those zip ties. Then I up end a galvanized bucket over it,
fairly large one. The post is right next to the pond.

MIgawd, it's dejavu allover again.

--
Crashj

Crash observed
MIgawd, it's dejavu allover again.

Okay, I'm slow today, my brain is addled as the band is practicing for the
*fourth*straight*day* but I don't get it...


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

Welll,... as usual .... neither do I Kathy!
Nedra in Missouri
zone 6

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...
Crash observed
MIgawd, it's dejavu allover again.

Okay, I'm slow today, my brain is addled as the band is practicing for the
*fourth*straight*day* but I don't get it...


kathy :-)
3000 gallon pond
800 gallon frog bog
home of the watergardening labradors
zone 7 SE WA state

yup,yup, yup, yup. I had a swee****er with 3/4 inch pvc and it iced shut when the
pump was in the house. now the pump is in the 45oF garage and it doesnt ice up.
Ingrid


"Gale Pearce" wrote:
Hi Bill - There are 2 possible problems with locating the pump inside your
basement - condensation and distance - the air in your basement will be
warmer than the outside air and will probably cause condensation in the
airline to collect and freeze up


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Hmmmm ...i only have to run a line about 6 feet from the window in our
basement . it will ice up i'm sure, maybe heat tape could solve that prob
when needed ? This sound like all this could be a pain. We dont have any
fish ... the frogs loved them.
bill


"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Bill - There are 2 possible problems with locating the pump inside your
basement - condensation and distance - the air in your basement will be
warmer than the outside air and will probably cause condensation in the
airline to collect and freeze up (I put my airpump in a small rubbermaid
container and locate it on top of my 45 gal bio filter and run the line
( ~
15') at a constant down slope to the airstone 3" below the water surface
so
no condensation can accumulate - others here have had freeze ups from
loops
or low spots in the airline ) - The longer the distance you pump whether
air or water, the less you get at discharge, although you could compensate
for that with the size of the pump and line
Gale :~)
"bill" wrote in message
...
hi,
im new here and have read quite a bit about ice on the pond and
wondered
if
an air pump located in our basement could force enough air thru a tube
to
keep our pond free of ice with a hole large enough to allow gasses to
escape? it gets pretty cold up here 0 to 20 below
bill

mine iced up at the point the PVC left the warm humid basement and hit the cold air
immediately outside the window. heat tape may do it! but dont use pvc then. Ingrid

"bill" wrote:

Hmmmm ...i only have to run a line about 6 feet from the window in our
basement . it will ice up i'm sure, maybe heat tape could solve that prob
when needed ? This sound like all this could be a pain. We dont have any
fish ... the frogs loved them.
bill


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.