Fish in Hiding

I have a very small pond, about 120gal and small water fall. We live in N.
Illinois. 4 Koi, 3 Schubunkins in pond. They always swim aound, even in
winter, and beg for food. I use a floating water heater and all have now
survived three winters OK. The heater is now out of the pond. Ten days ago
we had a cold snap, down to 25oF. The pond did not freeze, but the fish
went into hiding and have not come out from under a stone shelf. This is
abnormal behaviour. I changed 60% of the water adding chlorine and
chloramine remover. Still no movement. Is this normal? What should I do?

Thanks,
Martin

"Quercus Robur" wrote in message
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I have a very small pond, about 120gal and small water fall. We live in N.
Illinois. 4 Koi, 3 Schubunkins in pond. They always swim aound, even in
winter, and beg for food. I use a floating water heater and all have now
survived three winters OK. The heater is now out of the pond. Ten days ago we
had a cold snap, down to 25oF. The pond did not freeze, but the fish went into
hiding and have not come out from under a stone shelf. This is abnormal
behaviour. I changed 60% of the water adding chlorine and chloramine remover.
Still no movement. Is this normal? What should I do?

Thanks,
Martin

What is the temprature and pH of the water?

Quercus Robur wrote:
I have a very small pond, about 120gal and small water fall. We live in N.
Illinois. 4 Koi, 3 Schubunkins in pond. They always swim aound, even in
winter, and beg for food. I use a floating water heater and all have now
survived three winters OK. The heater is now out of the pond. Ten days ago
we had a cold snap, down to 25oF. The pond did not freeze, but the fish
went into hiding and have not come out from under a stone shelf. This is
abnormal behaviour. I changed 60% of the water adding chlorine and
chloramine remover. Still no movement. Is this normal? What should I do?

Thanks,
Martin



Here what works for me. You take a a few m-80's or quarters sticks. you
time the fuse for one minute, and you put in a coke bottle and tie a
rock to the neck of the bottle. Light the fuse; cap the bottle and toss
in the pond. If they don't come out; as Dr. McCoy would say: "there Dead
Jim".

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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Quercus Robur wrote:
I have a very small pond, about 120gal and small water fall. We live in
N.
Illinois. 4 Koi, 3 Schubunkins in pond. They always swim aound, even in
winter, and beg for food. I use a floating water heater and all have
now
survived three winters OK. The heater is now out of the pond. Ten days
ago
we had a cold snap, down to 25oF. The pond did not freeze, but the fish
went into hiding and have not come out from under a stone shelf. This
is
abnormal behaviour. I changed 60% of the water adding chlorine and
chloramine remover. Still no movement. Is this normal? What should I
do?

Thanks,
Martin



Here what works for me. You take a a few m-80's or quarters sticks. you
time the fuse for one minute, and you put in a coke bottle and tie a
rock to the neck of the bottle. Light the fuse; cap the bottle and toss
in the pond. If they don't come out; as Dr. McCoy would say: "there Dead
Jim".

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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Quercus Robur wrote:
I have a very small pond, about 120gal and small water fall. We live in
N.
Illinois. 4 Koi, 3 Schubunkins in pond. They always swim aound, even in
winter, and beg for food. I use a floating water heater and all have
now
survived three winters OK. The heater is now out of the pond. Ten days
ago
we had a cold snap, down to 25oF. The pond did not freeze, but the fish
went into hiding and have not come out from under a stone shelf. This
is
abnormal behaviour. I changed 60% of the water adding chlorine and
chloramine remover. Still no movement. Is this normal? What should I
do?

Thanks,
Martin



Here what works for me. You take a a few m-80's or quarters sticks. you
time the fuse for one minute, and you put in a coke bottle and tie a
rock to the neck of the bottle. Light the fuse; cap the bottle and toss
in the pond. If they don't come out; as Dr. McCoy would say: "there Dead
Jim".

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


As sick as that is, you've got to admit that that was quite inventive, even for
a troll.

"George" wrote in message
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"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
As sick as that is, you've got to admit that that was quite inventive,
even for
a troll.

No, it wasn't inventive, and I really don't appreciate you labeling it with
PONDS and dredging up all the stuff that I have filtered out. Thanks. NOT

"zookeeper" wrote in message
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"George" wrote in message
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"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
As sick as that is, you've got to admit that that was quite inventive,
even for
a troll.

No, it wasn't inventive, and I really don't appreciate you labeling it with
PONDS and dredging up all the stuff that I have filtered out. Thanks. NOT


Like the Russians say, tough ****sky.

"zookeeper" wrote in message
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"George" wrote in message
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"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
As sick as that is, you've got to admit that that was quite inventive,
even for
a troll.

No, it wasn't inventive, and I really don't appreciate you labeling it
with
PONDS and dredging up all the stuff that I have filtered out. Thanks. NOT
===================
Uh, I didn't write: "As sick as that is, you've got to admit that that was
quite inventive,
even for a troll."

Please SNIP carefully after checking headers for forgeries.
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McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

zookeeper wrote:


No, it wasn't inventive, and I really don't appreciate you labeling it with
PONDS and dredging up all the stuff that I have filtered out. Thanks. NOT

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


## Ask us if we care...

zookeeper wrote:

"George" wrote in message
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"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
As sick as that is, you've got to admit that that was quite inventive,
even for
a troll.

No, it wasn't inventive, and I really don't appreciate you labeling it
with PONDS and dredging up all the stuff that I have filtered out. Thanks.
NOT

Well, he's an idiot who gets his kicks out of that sort of thing, but it
just proves that the idea of putting PONDS in the subject doesn't help
anything.
--
derek