elmer's size of fish

since I am always asking things I thought I would add something.
I have noticed some people on here are setting up new tanks or are stopping
by and are new at keeping fish, a few anyway, and have had questions about
certain fish fitting in tanks when full grown, along with some other things,
I always check Elmer's web page they have a list of fish with the size they
grow out to, along with some other info, but if you want to know if a fish
will fit later on its a good web page for that, I don't know if Elmer's is
worldwide but I have one in pgh, pa
http://www.elmersaquarium.com/nav/freshwater/index.html
anyway here it is if anyone is getting new fish and wants to know size, temp
ect.
Nik

Ps: I thought about it because it been brought up (fish size) also back when
I got my first 2 Black Pacu's, and a few Oscar's about 15 years ago, The
store did not mention how big they would get or how long they would live, as
a matter a fact they gave me the info for a red belly, but they were wrong
and I think that happens a lot, I found out, not long after while at the
zoo, I seen one and showed my husband he talked to the people at the zoo and
got the correct info on them, which was our own fault for not being informed
about what we were getting and depending on a teenager at a store. We had
those two for many years..... but had to get much bigger tanks then we first
thought, and I know a few stores now that don't sell them (which I think is
a good idea), I know people also who get them and want to get rid of them
when they get to big, or throw them in our river which is not such a good
idea at all.

"Nikki" wrote in message
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since I am always asking things I thought I would add something.
I have noticed some people on here are setting up new tanks or are
stopping by and are new at keeping fish, a few anyway, and have had
questions about certain fish fitting in tanks when full grown, along with
some other things, I always check Elmer's web page they have a list of
fish with the size they grow out to, along with some other info, but if
you want to know if a fish will fit later on its a good web page for that,
I don't know if Elmer's is worldwide but I have one in pgh, pa
http://www.elmersaquarium.com/nav/freshwater/index.html
anyway here it is if anyone is getting new fish and wants to know size,
temp ect.
Nik

Ps: I thought about it because it been brought up (fish size) also back
when I got my first 2 Black Pacu's, and a few Oscar's about 15 years ago,
The store did not mention how big they would get or how long they would
live, as a matter a fact they gave me the info for a red belly, but they
were wrong and I think that happens a lot, I found out, not long after
while at the zoo, I seen one and showed my husband he talked to the people
at the zoo and got the correct info on them, which was our own fault for
not being informed about what we were getting and depending on a teenager
at a store. We had those two for many years..... but had to get much
bigger tanks then we first thought, and I know a few stores now that don't
sell them (which I think is a good idea), I know people also who get them
and want to get rid of them when they get to big, or throw them in our
river which is not such a good idea at all.
quick note, its not that i dont think people should get pacu's, they are
great and fun to have, they just should understand what they are getting
into, after i read that post it sounded like i did not think people should
get them. Nik

"Nikki" wrote in message
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since I am always asking things I thought I would add something.
I have noticed some people on here are setting up new tanks or are
stopping by and are new at keeping fish, a few anyway, and have had
questions about certain fish fitting in tanks when full grown, along with
some other things, I always check Elmer's web page they have a list of
fish with the size they grow out to, along with some other info, but if
you want to know if a fish will fit later on its a good web page for that,
I don't know if Elmer's is worldwide but I have one in pgh, pa
http://www.elmersaquarium.com/nav/freshwater/index.html
anyway here it is if anyone is getting new fish and wants to know size,
temp ect.
Nik


Good post. I just want to remind people to use multiple sources. These
pages are sometimes written by people with more good intentions than
knowledge. Elmer's for example, indicates Frontosas (Cyphotilapia frontosa)
as being 8" algae eaters, when they are (afaik) specialized deep water
carnivores (not much algae at 30ft depth ;~) and they can grow to 13" or 16"
in the wild (both of which are quite different from 8").

Lengths are also difficult to predict, due to the variables of water
conditions, diet and genetics. Some fish grow larger in the wild (ie:
Frontosa), while others might grow larger in an aquarium (ie: mbuna), so
don't view the size estimates you read as absolutes.
--
www.NetMax.tk

"NetMax" wrote in message
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"Nikki" wrote in message
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since I am always asking things I thought I would add something.
I have noticed some people on here are setting up new tanks or are
stopping by and are new at keeping fish, a few anyway, and have had
questions about certain fish fitting in tanks when full grown, along with
some other things, I always check Elmer's web page they have a list of
fish with the size they grow out to, along with some other info, but if
you want to know if a fish will fit later on its a good web page for
that, I don't know if Elmer's is worldwide but I have one in pgh, pa
http://www.elmersaquarium.com/nav/freshwater/index.html
anyway here it is if anyone is getting new fish and wants to know size,
temp ect.
Nik


Good post. I just want to remind people to use multiple sources. These
pages are sometimes written by people with more good intentions than
knowledge. Elmer's for example, indicates Frontosas (Cyphotilapia
frontosa) as being 8" algae eaters, when they are (afaik) specialized deep
water carnivores (not much algae at 30ft depth ;~) and they can grow to
13" or 16" in the wild (both of which are quite different from 8").

Lengths are also difficult to predict, due to the variables of water
conditions, diet and genetics. Some fish grow larger in the wild (ie:
Frontosa), while others might grow larger in an aquarium (ie: mbuna), so
don't view the size estimates you read as absolutes.
--
www.NetMax.tk

I'm going to see if i can get you guys a pic, my friend called the other day
she has a pl*co, she said this thing has got so big he is not comfortable in
her 55 gl, i said to her i did not know about that, he should be fine, she
insisted he has got a lot bigger, i stopped in and sure enough he is
outgrowing it, now growing up we had at least two fish tanks in each room
(my dad) and i have seen many but this thing is a monster, i was suprised, i
told her i wanted to come take a pic she said ok.
I'll see if i can stop by some time next week and take the pic and post it.
Nik

Yeah your right, all the pages differ some, but its a start, i have seen
some other good ones but not with as many types of fish.
there is a zebra pl*c on there i want one of those.
I think i got a neat idea for my 120 gl i'm going to finish looking and
i'll post it

"Nikki" wrote in message
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"NetMax" wrote in message
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"Nikki" wrote in message
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since I am always asking things I thought I would add something.
I have noticed some people on here are setting up new tanks or are
stopping by and are new at keeping fish, a few anyway, and have had
questions about certain fish fitting in tanks when full grown, along
with some other things, I always check Elmer's web page they have a list
of fish with the size they grow out to, along with some other info, but
if you want to know if a fish will fit later on its a good web page for
that, I don't know if Elmer's is worldwide but I have one in pgh, pa
http://www.elmersaquarium.com/nav/freshwater/index.html
anyway here it is if anyone is getting new fish and wants to know size,
temp ect.
Nik


Good post. I just want to remind people to use multiple sources. These
pages are sometimes written by people with more good intentions than
knowledge. Elmer's for example, indicates Frontosas (Cyphotilapia
frontosa) as being 8" algae eaters, when they are (afaik) specialized
deep water carnivores (not much algae at 30ft depth ;~) and they can grow
to 13" or 16" in the wild (both of which are quite different from 8").

Lengths are also difficult to predict, due to the variables of water
conditions, diet and genetics. Some fish grow larger in the wild (ie:
Frontosa), while others might grow larger in an aquarium (ie: mbuna), so
don't view the size estimates you read as absolutes.
--
www.NetMax.tk

I'm going to see if i can get you guys a pic, my friend called the other
day she has a pl*co, she said this thing has got so big he is not
comfortable in her 55 gl, i said to her i did not know about that, he
should be fine, she insisted he has got a lot bigger, i stopped in and
sure enough he is outgrowing it, now growing up we had at least two fish
tanks in each room (my dad) and i have seen many but this thing is a
monster, i was suprised, i told her i wanted to come take a pic she said
ok.
I'll see if i can stop by some time next week and take the pic and post
it.
Nik

Yeah your right, all the pages differ some, but its a start, i have seen
some other good ones but not with as many types of fish.
there is a zebra pl*c on there i want one of those.
I think i got a neat idea for my 120 gl i'm going to finish looking and
i'll post it


There are several cats which are particularly hard to predict size on,
channel cats, plecos and the Iridescent shark. There are species variants
on these which differ tremendously in size, so ymmv. I think some of the
common plecs can reach 18", which is too big for a 55g.
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www.NetMax.tk

Nikki wrote:

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Yeah your right, all the pages differ some, but its a start, i have seen
some other good ones but not with as many types of fish.
there is a zebra pl*c on there i want one of those.
I think i got a neat idea for my 120 gl i'm going to finish looking and
i'll post it

I had a zebra pleco when they first came into the hobby. I only saw
that stupid fish once a fortnight. $50 for a glorious looking fish that
does nothing but hide. YMMV, but don't expect to see much of the
expensive little guy.

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"Altum" wrote in message
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I had a zebra pleco when they first came into the hobby. I only saw that
stupid fish once a fortnight. $50 for a glorious looking fish that does
nothing but hide. YMMV, but don't expect to see much of the expensive
little guy.
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I bought two clown plecos at twice the price of the regular ones - and like
you I never see them. One comes out once in awhile and I haven't seen the
second one since I put him/her in the 55g tank. Oh well, at least they're
keeping the algae down and aren't supposed to get larger than 6".
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