Pszemol Just for You.... Product Review: PFO's Solaris LED System

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:08:33 -0500, "Boomer"
wrote:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2

Boomer,

Thanks for pointing the Group to another very interesting article. The
units seem fantastic - a "step" change, possibly ! Any reduction in
electrical costs (and heat generation) is very welcome.

If I am interpreting the article correctly, the "useable" spectrum
appears to reduce before the 11-year lifespan, but even so, the life
is much longer than MH or fluorescent bulbs.

The cost of the equipment is terrifying, but will probably reduce if
other manufacturers start to market similar units.

Regards, Fishnut.

I was disappointed in that the article did not show any
real world results, ie "let's see the tank that the light
was on". If he has had it on his reef tank all these
years, then why not show some pictures of the tank?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 8/18/2006 11:29 AM:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:08:33 -0500, "Boomer"
wrote:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2

Boomer,

Thanks for pointing the Group to another very interesting article. The
units seem fantastic - a "step" change, possibly ! Any reduction in
electrical costs (and heat generation) is very welcome.

If I am interpreting the article correctly, the "useable" spectrum
appears to reduce before the 11-year lifespan, but even so, the life
is much longer than MH or fluorescent bulbs.

The cost of the equipment is terrifying, but will probably reduce if
other manufacturers start to market similar units.

Regards, Fishnut.

Wayne you need to get out of that closet you live in.. These lights have been out ohhhh
about a month or so other than some test lamps. How are you going to get anything in that
time. Where does it say anything about being on his tank for years. Again, as usually, you
never read the dam article. Again, Wayne, talking out of his butt end. In the last year
you are becoming more and more sick with you ass'9 remarks and comments. Sorry. You don't
really help all that much anymore you just like arguing .

You must have missed this

"Joy Meadows mentioned in a recent conversation that she had discontinued use of a chiller
after replacing her metal halide lamps with a Solaris lighting system..Ms. Meadows is no
stranger to reef aquaria, as those who know her can attest. "

Being that she is a well know coral farmer I kinda' thing she knows what she is doing and
much more so than you Wayne by a long shot..just so yah know.

Some people in this hobby, unlike you, take their own time and spend their own money
testing things for us, so we know how they work or what they do. Then they write it up,
so maybe one can maybe learn something about. it and make a choose. Both Danna and Sanjay
have test most of the bulbs and reflectors in this hobby for us. It should be obvious, to
anyone with common sense, that a person could never test all the bulbs and lighting
systems that are out on their own tank for results. They tell us what that do and how
they work and what we might expect. It is called learning Wayne, from others, something
you know little about. Wayne, when it comes to understanding light and light over a reef
tank or a reef and the long term captive care of corals with lighting fixtures, you could
not hold a candle to Danna Riddle........just so you know.

Where are your tanks pics ? Why don't you give us some to look at.?


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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
:I was disappointed in that the article did not show any
: real world results, ie "let's see the tank that the light
: was on". If he has had it on his reef tank all these
: years, then why not show some pictures of the tank?
:
: Wayne Sallee
: Wayne's Pets
:
:
:
: wrote on 8/18/2006 11:29 AM:
: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:08:33 -0500, "Boomer"
: wrote:
:
: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2
:
: Boomer,
:
: Thanks for pointing the Group to another very interesting article. The
: units seem fantastic - a "step" change, possibly ! Any reduction in
: electrical costs (and heat generation) is very welcome.
:
: If I am interpreting the article correctly, the "useable" spectrum
: appears to reduce before the 11-year lifespan, but even so, the life
: is much longer than MH or fluorescent bulbs.
:
: The cost of the equipment is terrifying, but will probably reduce if
: other manufacturers start to market similar units.
:
: Regards, Fishnut.
:

Ohh, I forgot. Please name me any light bulb or lighting system in this hobby that was
tested with results before it hit the market

--
Boomer

If You See Me Running You Better Catch-Up

Former US Army Bomb Technician (EOD)
Member; IABTI, NATEODA, WEODF, ISEE & IPS

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http://www.coralrealm.com



"Boomer" wrote in message ...
: Wayne you need to get out of that closet you live in.. These lights have been out ohhhh
: about a month or so other than some test lamps. How are you going to get anything in
that
: time. Where does it say anything about being on his tank for years. Again, as usually,
you
: never read the dam article. Again, Wayne, talking out of his butt end. In the last year
: you are becoming more and more sick with you ass'9 remarks and comments. Sorry. You
don't
: really help all that much anymore you just like arguing .
:
: You must have missed this
:
: "Joy Meadows mentioned in a recent conversation that she had discontinued use of a
chiller
: after replacing her metal halide lamps with a Solaris lighting system..Ms. Meadows is no
: stranger to reef aquaria, as those who know her can attest. "
:
: Being that she is a well know coral farmer I kinda' thing she knows what she is doing
and
: much more so than you Wayne by a long shot..just so yah know.
:
: Some people in this hobby, unlike you, take their own time and spend their own money
: testing things for us, so we know how they work or what they do. Then they write it up,
: so maybe one can maybe learn something about. it and make a choose. Both Danna and
Sanjay
: have test most of the bulbs and reflectors in this hobby for us. It should be obvious,
to
: anyone with common sense, that a person could never test all the bulbs and lighting
: systems that are out on their own tank for results. They tell us what that do and how
: they work and what we might expect. It is called learning Wayne, from others, something
: you know little about. Wayne, when it comes to understanding light and light over a reef
: tank or a reef and the long term captive care of corals with lighting fixtures, you
could
: not hold a candle to Danna Riddle........just so you know.
:
: Where are your tanks pics ? Why don't you give us some to look at.?
:
:
: --
: Boomer
:
: If You See Me Running You Better Catch-Up
:
: Former US Army Bomb Technician (EOD)
: Member; IABTI, NATEODA, WEODF, ISEE & IPS
:
: Want to talk chemistry ? The Reef Chemistry Forum
: http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/index.php
:
: Want to See More ! The Coral Realm
: http://www.coralrealm.com
:
:
:
: "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
: ...
::I was disappointed in that the article did not show any
:: real world results, ie "let's see the tank that the light
:: was on". If he has had it on his reef tank all these
:: years, then why not show some pictures of the tank?
::
:: Wayne Sallee
:: Wayne's Pets
::
::
::
:: wrote on 8/18/2006 11:29 AM:
:: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:08:33 -0500, "Boomer"
:: wrote:
::
:: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2
::
:: Boomer,
::
:: Thanks for pointing the Group to another very interesting article. The
:: units seem fantastic - a "step" change, possibly ! Any reduction in
:: electrical costs (and heat generation) is very welcome.
::
:: If I am interpreting the article correctly, the "useable" spectrum
:: appears to reduce before the 11-year lifespan, but even so, the life
:: is much longer than MH or fluorescent bulbs.
::
:: The cost of the equipment is terrifying, but will probably reduce if
:: other manufacturers start to market similar units.
::
:: Regards, Fishnut.
::
:
:

hehehe I read the article too fast. It was 11 projected
years :-)

There's just not enough hours in a day anymore :-)

I still would like to have seen an aquarium with the light
over it, even if it was for a short time it was used. And
a documentation of how long it had been used over a reef
tank, and how the corals responded to the new light.


Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Boomer wrote on 8/18/2006 2:24 PM:
Wayne you need to get out of that closet you live in.. These lights have been out ohhhh
about a month or so other than some test lamps. How are you going to get anything in that
time. Where does it say anything about being on his tank for years. Again, as usually, you
never read the dam article. Again, Wayne, talking out of his butt end. In the last year
you are becoming more and more sick with you ass'9 remarks and comments. Sorry. You don't
really help all that much anymore you just like arguing .

You must have missed this

"Joy Meadows mentioned in a recent conversation that she had discontinued use of a chiller
after replacing her metal halide lamps with a Solaris lighting system..Ms. Meadows is no
stranger to reef aquaria, as those who know her can attest. "

Being that she is a well know coral farmer I kinda' thing she knows what she is doing and
much more so than you Wayne by a long shot..just so yah know.

Some people in this hobby, unlike you, take their own time and spend their own money
testing things for us, so we know how they work or what they do. Then they write it up,
so maybe one can maybe learn something about. it and make a choose. Both Danna and Sanjay
have test most of the bulbs and reflectors in this hobby for us. It should be obvious, to
anyone with common sense, that a person could never test all the bulbs and lighting
systems that are out on their own tank for results. They tell us what that do and how
they work and what we might expect. It is called learning Wayne, from others, something
you know little about. Wayne, when it comes to understanding light and light over a reef
tank or a reef and the long term captive care of corals with lighting fixtures, you could
not hold a candle to Danna Riddle........just so you know.

Where are your tanks pics ? Why don't you give us some to look at.?

Fishhut


You need to look at in a different frame of "light" :-) Pricey, yes but much more cost
effective in the long run if you are planning on keeping a reef tanks for some time. .
Don't forget these lights also have dimmers and you can also change the K setting, so you
can simulate dawn to dusk. I'm sure that in the future the price will come down and there
will be even high output units. This lamp is just a start in new forms of reef lighting.

--
Boomer

If You See Me Running You Better Catch-Up

Former US Army Bomb Technician (EOD)
Member; IABTI, NATEODA, WEODF, ISEE & IPS

Want to talk chemistry ? The Reef Chemistry Forum
http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/index.php

Want to See More ! The Coral Realm
http://www.coralrealm.com



wrote in message
...
: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:08:33 -0500, "Boomer"
: wrote:
:
: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/8/review2
:
: Boomer,
:
: Thanks for pointing the Group to another very interesting article. The
: units seem fantastic - a "step" change, possibly ! Any reduction in
: electrical costs (and heat generation) is very welcome.
:
: If I am interpreting the article correctly, the "useable" spectrum
: appears to reduce before the 11-year lifespan, but even so, the life
: is much longer than MH or fluorescent bulbs.
:
: The cost of the equipment is terrifying, but will probably reduce if
: other manufacturers start to market similar units.
:
: Regards, Fishnut.
:

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:32:37 -0500, "Boomer"
wrote:

Fishhut


You need to look at in a different frame of "light" :-) Pricey, yes but much more cost
effective in the long run if you are planning on keeping a reef tanks for some time. .
Don't forget these lights also have dimmers and you can also change the K setting, so you
can simulate dawn to dusk. I'm sure that in the future the price will come down and there
will be even high output units. This lamp is just a start in new forms of reef lighting.

Boomer,

Thanks for the reply. I was not critisising the equip. in any way,
just admiring the new development. The cost frightened me, that is
all !! U.S. products at $ 100 tend to be priced at £ 100, when they
hit the U.K., unfortunately, which is ridiculous. I think the
development, and settings variability is fantastic.

If Wayne is a retailer, you would think he would welcome new products,
as a chance for more profit. Has anyone on the Group visited his
premises ?

Regards, Fishnut.

I do welcome new products that are good. As far as
lighting goes, there's not much profit :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 8/19/2006 4:26 PM:
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:32:37 -0500, "Boomer"
wrote:

Fishhut


You need to look at in a different frame of "light" :-) Pricey, yes but much more cost
effective in the long run if you are planning on keeping a reef tanks for some time. .
Don't forget these lights also have dimmers and you can also change the K setting, so you
can simulate dawn to dusk. I'm sure that in the future the price will come down and there
will be even high output units. This lamp is just a start in new forms of reef lighting.

Boomer,

Thanks for the reply. I was not critisising the equip. in any way,
just admiring the new development. The cost frightened me, that is
all !! U.S. products at $ 100 tend to be priced at £ 100, when they
hit the U.K., unfortunately, which is ridiculous. I think the
development, and settings variability is fantastic.

If Wayne is a retailer, you would think he would welcome new products,
as a chance for more profit. Has anyone on the Group visited his
premises ?

Regards, Fishnut.

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message ...
I do welcome new products that are good. As far as
lighting goes, there's not much profit :-)

Why not? Bigger price sticker = bigger profit for you as a %.