Apistasia Wimp

Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

Peppermint are known t eat it but like th coipper band there is n
guarantee. Give aip long enough and eventually you risk your tank
getting over run with them....nuke it now or take your changes. And by
the way you do not inject them with Joes Joice you merely squirt the
milky white crap over them and it does the trick, as does lemon juice
or kalk wasser....lemon juice is best injected.

Odds are if yu do nt feed any food to yur critters that copper band
will get hungry enough to eat the aip. Why eat crap like aip when
better stuff is handed to them.Its the only way I can get peppermints
to eat aip or emeral crabs to eat bubble algae and the same with m,ost
any critter......if it gets hungry enough it will eat the
undesireables. OR pull your ocrals and other critter osut and turn
that tank into a tank of undesireables, and throw all your
undesireable crap init like manjano';s bristle worms, mantis shrimp or
rogue hermits etc. Let it run rampant, do not worry about water
changes on a scheduled basis, and even an odd damsel or two does good
in it. Yu would be surprised how meat looking such a tank and how
diverse such a tank can get...I personally would not be caught with
out a "undesireables tank" and I prefer to look at my undesireables
than most of my other tanks.......
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:45:16 -0400, "StringerBell"
wrote:

Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,




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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

On Wed, 23 May 2007 17:04:18 -0500, Pondmeister
wrote:

Peppermint are known t eat it but like th coipper band there is n
guarantee. Give aip long enough and eventually you risk your tank
getting over run with them....nuke it now or take your changes. And by
the way you do not inject them with Joes Joice you merely squirt the
milky white crap over them and it does the trick, as does lemon juice
or kalk wasser....lemon juice is best injected.

Odds are if yu do nt feed any food to yur critters that copper band
will get hungry enough to eat the aip. Why eat crap like aip when
better stuff is handed to them.Its the only way I can get peppermints
to eat aip or emeral crabs to eat bubble algae and the same with m,ost
any critter......if it gets hungry enough it will eat the
undesireables. OR pull your ocrals and other critter osut and turn
that tank into a tank of undesireables, and throw all your
undesireable crap init like manjano';s bristle worms, mantis shrimp or
rogue hermits etc. Let it run rampant, do not worry about water
changes on a scheduled basis, and even an odd damsel or two does good
in it. Yu would be surprised how meat looking such a tank and how
diverse such a tank can get...I personally would not be caught with
out a "undesireables tank" and I prefer to look at my undesireables
than most of my other tanks.......

Do they have a babble fish translator to decipher what this moron
writes?

Get the dick out of your hand and try and concentrate on the task at
hand, like making a coherent post.

Hahahahahahah, I love the usenet. I have spent way to much time on
webforums with moderators.

I like you dick head, I would probably have just went back to
reefcentral and never again visited this newsgroup if it wasn't for
you. I will now follow your pathetic ass around to every newsgroup you
post in just to **** with you..because the only thing I have done
longer than reefs is torture ass holes on fidonet, AND then the
internet.

HAHAHAahahhahaHAHHHAHAHAHAHAhahahahhahahaAHAhhaHA! !!!!

Peppermint shrimp are supposed to eat aiptasia. The problem is sometimes
there are tastier foods in the tank.

I have one aiptasia, inside a cave on the unreachable bottom of the tank.
Still deciding between the copperband which might not work and the shrimp
who eventually will be eaten by my large sweetlips.

Tough call.

I'm wondering if I could use a power head and a hose to vaccum the aiptasia
out......


Good luck,

Ruben



"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

Stringer,

To be honest I was pretty lazy about my aiptasia when I first saw a couple.
I did try to stab one a few times and that one disappeared. Later another
showed up and I was able to reach it and get it too. But that other one I
couldn't get to and never really cared.

6 months later I'm being bombarded with them. I kid you not that they are
everywhere. I have zoos that have a hole in the middle of the colony
because the glass anemone popped up in the middle. Aiptasia are good for
eating phosphates from your tank but I promise that if you ignore it they
will multiply slowly at first then go absolutely nuts. I probably have
around 50 that I can see in my 90g. Two of them are huge! They big ones
look neat. I have touched them and they don't sting at all but the fish try
to swim around them and, as I said, polyps don't want near them either.

Funny, the timing of your email. Just yesterday I ordered 4 berghi
nudibranch from www.saltyunderground.com. They come in tomorrow morning.
These guys are guaranteed predators of the aiptasia. It wasn't cheap but it
was my only hope of stopping this epidemic. Maybe while I'm acclamating
them tomorrow I'll get some pics of the aiptasia outbreak.

If you'd rather nature take care of it use the berghia. But remember that
once berghia eat all the aiptasia, they will starve to death. Or, do like I
did, learn from experience but you'll have to pay a bit more $$ later to fix
it.

Good luck,
Bryan



"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:03:13 -0500, "B" wrote:

Stringer,

To be honest I was pretty lazy about my aiptasia when I first saw a couple.
I did try to stab one a few times and that one disappeared. Later another
showed up and I was able to reach it and get it too. But that other one I
couldn't get to and never really cared.

6 months later I'm being bombarded with them. I kid you not that they are
everywhere. I have zoos that have a hole in the middle of the colony
because the glass anemone popped up in the middle. Aiptasia are good for
eating phosphates from your tank but I promise that if you ignore it they
will multiply slowly at first then go absolutely nuts. I probably have
around 50 that I can see in my 90g. Two of them are huge! They big ones
look neat. I have touched them and they don't sting at all but the fish try
to swim around them and, as I said, polyps don't want near them either.

Funny, the timing of your email. Just yesterday I ordered 4 berghi
nudibranch from www.saltyunderground.com. They come in tomorrow morning.
These guys are guaranteed predators of the aiptasia. It wasn't cheap but it
was my only hope of stopping this epidemic. Maybe while I'm acclamating
them tomorrow I'll get some pics of the aiptasia outbreak.

If you'd rather nature take care of it use the berghia. But remember that
once berghia eat all the aiptasia, they will starve to death. Or, do like I
did, learn from experience but you'll have to pay a bit more $$ later to fix
it.



Bergias are so very cool, I have been keeping them in a species
specific tank for some time now. I must be on the 12th generation at
least.

For some reason, they will never finish off all the aptasias in a reef
tank though. I swear they commit suicide so the babies will have food,
but if a ton of very tiny aptasias aren't present, they won't make it
anyway starting the next aptasia cycle.

Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful.

Here are some pictures of them if you care.

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...a_stephanieae/

Here are the four originals. They and their subsequent babies have
eaten about 30 pounds of aptasia at this point. I have kept the
population down to two breeding pairs at all times, and about two
months ago I lost all the adults and luckily hatched four and am back
in full swing now.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...pagen umber=1

If I didn't have a steady supply of wild aptasia I would have lost
them some time ago!! They are fun to watch, but I use peppermint
shrimp for aptasia control in the tanks.





"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:56:05 -0400, kryppy@. wrote:
snip a bunch of assumptions:


Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful.

Your assuming a lot here are you not. Perhaps its time to rewrite all
the books on the subject, since you seem to be so cock sure.


snip some more crap





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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

On Sun, 27 May 2007 09:44:24 -0500, Pondmeister
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:56:05 -0400, kryppy@. wrote:
snip a bunch of assumptions:


Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful.

Your assuming a lot here are you not. Perhaps its time to rewrite all
the books on the subject, since you seem to be so cock sure.


snip some more crap


LMAO, I am 100% sure Mr. Pondmeister. I routinely capture wild
Aeolidiella stephanieae, peppermint shrimp and aptasia smart guy.

I have been doing this damn near 25 years, and I have never seen a
wild caught peppermint shrimp from the Keys NOT eat aptasia, ever
period.

Just because camel shrimp have been sold by unscrupulous (and
sometimes stupid) vendors, don't ASSUME everyone in internet land is a
moron like you.

I could cash in on the 'bergia' (Aeolidiella stephanieae) craze if I
so desired, but I happen to like the little guys and have been
studying them extensively over the 12+ generations I have raised them
and concluded they suck as a form of aptasia control and I would not
subject them to starvation at the hands of a hobbiest who THINKS he
has an aptasia problem with ten in a tank.

On the other hand, peppermints are all of a buck or two and are quite
a bit more effective. I am relating my practical experience, not some
crap that has been made up to sell book or market a miracle snake oil
cure.

BTW: Go jump in a pond. LMFAO@U dumbass.

Well your a ****ing idiot then as the name you stated is far from
being what peppermints are.you ****ing babbling dumbass! I don't care
if yur doing it for a 100 yeras your ****ing wrong wrong wrong you
asshole! I'm not talking camel shrimp asshole I am talking peppermint,
realpeppermint, yu evidently live n wayne salle world of fiction and
wish. dumbass moron! Your theone that assumes, moron since you make
assinne claims that do not hold true ..take a ****ing hike yuu
babbling moronic baboon without a clue. No better yet your welcome
here with the rest of the ****ing idiots that hang uot here....duh!

On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:22:03 -0400, kryppy@. wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 09:44:24 -0500, Pondmeister
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:56:05 -0400, kryppy@. wrote:
snip a bunch of assumptions:


Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful.

Your assuming a lot here are you not. Perhaps its time to rewrite all
the books on the subject, since you seem to be so cock sure.


snip some more crap


LMAO, I am 100% sure Mr. Pondmeister. I routinely capture wild
Aeolidiella stephanieae, peppermint shrimp and aptasia smart guy.

I have been doing this damn near 25 years, and I have never seen a
wild caught peppermint shrimp from the Keys NOT eat aptasia, ever
period.

Just because camel shrimp have been sold by unscrupulous (and
sometimes stupid) vendors, don't ASSUME everyone in internet land is a
moron like you.

I could cash in on the 'bergia' (Aeolidiella stephanieae) craze if I
so desired, but I happen to like the little guys and have been
studying them extensively over the 12+ generations I have raised them
and concluded they suck as a form of aptasia control and I would not
subject them to starvation at the hands of a hobbiest who THINKS he
has an aptasia problem with ten in a tank.

On the other hand, peppermints are all of a buck or two and are quite
a bit more effective. I am relating my practical experience, not some
crap that has been made up to sell book or market a miracle snake oil
cure.

BTW: Go jump in a pond. LMFAO@U dumbass.










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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

On May 26, 10:56 pm, kryppy@. wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:03:13 -0500, "B" wrote:
Stringer,

To be honest I was pretty lazy about my aiptasia when I first saw a couple.
I did try to stab one a few times and that one disappeared. Later another
showed up and I was able to reach it and get it too. But that other one I
couldn't get to and never really cared.

6 months later I'm being bombarded with them. I kid you not that they are
everywhere. I have zoos that have a hole in the middle of the colony
because the glass anemone popped up in the middle. Aiptasia are good for
eating phosphates from your tank but I promise that if you ignore it they
will multiply slowly at first then go absolutely nuts. I probably have
around 50 that I can see in my 90g. Two of them are huge! They big ones
look neat. I have touched them and they don't sting at all but the fish try
to swim around them and, as I said, polyps don't want near them either.

Funny, the timing of your email. Just yesterday I ordered 4 berghi
nudibranch fromwww.saltyunderground.com. They come in tomorrow morning.
These guys are guaranteed predators of the aiptasia. It wasn't cheap but it
was my only hope of stopping this epidemic. Maybe while I'm acclamating
them tomorrow I'll get some pics of the aiptasia outbreak.

If you'd rather nature take care of it use the berghia. But remember that
once berghia eat all the aiptasia, they will starve to death. Or, do like I
did, learn from experience but you'll have to pay a bit more $$ later to fix
it.

Bergias are so very cool, I have been keeping them in a species
specific tank for some time now. I must be on the 12th generation at
least.

For some reason, they will never finish off all the aptasias in a reef
tank though. I swear they commit suicide so the babies will have food,
but if a ton of very tiny aptasias aren't present, they won't make it
anyway starting the nextaptasiacycle.

Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful.

Here are some pictures of them if you care.

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...a_stephanieae/

Here are the four originals. They and their subsequent babies have
eaten about 30 pounds ofaptasiaat this point. I have kept the
population down to two breeding pairs at all times, and about two
months ago I lost all the adults and luckily hatched four and am back
in full swing now.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...eadid=962243&p...

If I didn't have a steady supply of wildaptasiaI would have lost
them some time ago!! They are fun to watch, but I use peppermint
shrimp foraptasiacontrol in the tanks.



"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
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Berghia are a great solution to aiptasia problems in the right tanks
where they are a good fit. We've heard plenty of feedback that berghia
have solved people's aiptasia problems.

We've also heard a ton of feedback that Joe's Juice made their
aiptasia problems worse. So our advice is to siphon away any aiptasia
on which you apply Joe's Juice. Any of the pieces of aiptasia that
break off the aiptasia you put the juice on can make new aiptasia. The
foot of the aiptasia, if not destroyed, can regrow as well.

Peppermints are hit and miss. They must be the right kind of
peppermint (most stores don't really know what they have), they prefer
to eat fish food and they typically eat only the smaller aiptasia
assuming you have the right species of shrimp.

Copperbanded butterflyfish are hard to acclimate. It's not unusual for
people to try two or three before they get one to live for more than a
week. If the fish lives, it's a crap shoot as to if they will eat
aiptasia.

If you are considering berghia, don't get peppermint shrimp. They are
predators.