Problem Fin Rot

I've tried practically everything from the puregold website to treat a
4" ranchu for fins that keep getting fin rot after having successfully
treated in a hospital tank. My current tank setup isn't much. I have a
20 gallon bare-bottom glass tank with no tank decorations, a 6 inch
airstone, Aquaclear 300 packed with filter floss, a bag of Ehfisubstrat,
a bag of Black Diamond carbon, and then some more floss. The filter is
cycled: ammonia is zero, nitrite is zero, nitrate is 5 ppm, pH is about
8.4, GH = 250ppm, KH=6.

At one time, I use to keep this fish in a 5 gallon glass tank with just
an Aquaclear filter packed with filter floss. No carbon and no bio
media for bio-filtration. The ran the filter as a mechanical filter, so
I just changed the water every other day with tap water and plain no
frills dechlorinator. But I recall the fins on the fish were perfect
under these conditions.... never had fin rot problems.

Now, I'm wondering if the use of carbon filtration is causing the fin
rot problem. I have another goldfish in a separate tank (no
bio-filtration, no carbon, just mechanical filtration), and she has
perfect fins.

My question is are there any alternatives to using carbon that I should
try? Some other media that I could use that removes colored impurities,
keeps the water clear, etc.... Or should I just remove the carbon
from my filter and see what happens?

when there isnt any other explanation, remove everything but the necessities.
carbon is not generally used in GF tanks anyway. the fiber floss is a biofilter.
Add a bit of salt to the water, 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons. but mostly is change some
water every day if possible. Ingrid

jg_23 wrote:

I've tried practically everything from the puregold website to treat a
4" ranchu for fins that keep getting fin rot after having successfully
treated in a hospital tank. My current tank setup isn't much. I have a
20 gallon bare-bottom glass tank with no tank decorations, a 6 inch
airstone, Aquaclear 300 packed with filter floss, a bag of Ehfisubstrat,
a bag of Black Diamond carbon, and then some more floss. The filter is
cycled: ammonia is zero, nitrite is zero, nitrate is 5 ppm, pH is about
8.4, GH = 250ppm, KH=6.

At one time, I use to keep this fish in a 5 gallon glass tank with just
an Aquaclear filter packed with filter floss. No carbon and no bio
media for bio-filtration. The ran the filter as a mechanical filter, so
I just changed the water every other day with tap water and plain no
frills dechlorinator. But I recall the fins on the fish were perfect
under these conditions.... never had fin rot problems.

Now, I'm wondering if the use of carbon filtration is causing the fin
rot problem. I have another goldfish in a separate tank (no
bio-filtration, no carbon, just mechanical filtration), and she has
perfect fins.

My question is are there any alternatives to using carbon that I should
try? Some other media that I could use that removes colored impurities,
keeps the water clear, etc.... Or should I just remove the carbon
from my filter and see what happens?



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When I had a similar problem in my tank (two black moors and one oranda), I
used Melafix in my tank for five days (not in a hospital tank). It seems to
have wiped out the bacteria that caused that fin rot, as it has never
appeared since.

Scott

"jg_23" wrote in message
...
I've tried practically everything from the puregold website to treat a
4" ranchu for fins that keep getting fin rot after having successfully
treated in a hospital tank. My current tank setup isn't much. I have a
20 gallon bare-bottom glass tank with no tank decorations, a 6 inch
airstone, Aquaclear 300 packed with filter floss, a bag of Ehfisubstrat,
a bag of Black Diamond carbon, and then some more floss. The filter is
cycled: ammonia is zero, nitrite is zero, nitrate is 5 ppm, pH is about
8.4, GH = 250ppm, KH=6.

At one time, I use to keep this fish in a 5 gallon glass tank with just
an Aquaclear filter packed with filter floss. No carbon and no bio
media for bio-filtration. The ran the filter as a mechanical filter, so
I just changed the water every other day with tap water and plain no
frills dechlorinator. But I recall the fins on the fish were perfect
under these conditions.... never had fin rot problems.

Now, I'm wondering if the use of carbon filtration is causing the fin
rot problem. I have another goldfish in a separate tank (no
bio-filtration, no carbon, just mechanical filtration), and she has
perfect fins.

My question is are there any alternatives to using carbon that I should
try? Some other media that I could use that removes colored impurities,
keeps the water clear, etc.... Or should I just remove the carbon
from my filter and see what happens?

Hello

I used the INTERPET treatment (UK), do I need to repeat the dosage at all?
It doesn't say to do this, but just says if redosing wait 7 days and change
30% of the water.

I have just put this fin rot treatment into my tank today. (The instructions
said to remove any carbon filters before treatment.)

Are the 2 fish likely to be cured from mild-moderate fin rot (nowhere near
the actual body) with 1 dose given correctly according to the dosage?

Thanks

Rachael



Scott wrote in message
. ..
When I had a similar problem in my tank (two black moors and one oranda),
I
used Melafix in my tank for five days (not in a hospital tank). It seems
to
have wiped out the bacteria that caused that fin rot, as it has never
appeared since.

Scott

"jg_23" wrote in message
...
I've tried practically everything from the puregold website to treat a
4" ranchu for fins that keep getting fin rot after having successfully
treated in a hospital tank. My current tank setup isn't much. I have a
20 gallon bare-bottom glass tank with no tank decorations, a 6 inch
airstone, Aquaclear 300 packed with filter floss, a bag of Ehfisubstrat,
a bag of Black Diamond carbon, and then some more floss. The filter is
cycled: ammonia is zero, nitrite is zero, nitrate is 5 ppm, pH is about
8.4, GH = 250ppm, KH=6.

At one time, I use to keep this fish in a 5 gallon glass tank with just
an Aquaclear filter packed with filter floss. No carbon and no bio
media for bio-filtration. The ran the filter as a mechanical filter, so
I just changed the water every other day with tap water and plain no
frills dechlorinator. But I recall the fins on the fish were perfect
under these conditions.... never had fin rot problems.

Now, I'm wondering if the use of carbon filtration is causing the fin
rot problem. I have another goldfish in a separate tank (no
bio-filtration, no carbon, just mechanical filtration), and she has
perfect fins.

My question is are there any alternatives to using carbon that I should
try? Some other media that I could use that removes colored impurities,
keeps the water clear, etc.... Or should I just remove the carbon
from my filter and see what happens?

what is in it? fin rot is usually a water quality problem associated with high
nitrates or other water quality issues. Ingrid

"Dave & Rachael" wrote:
I used the INTERPET treatment (UK), do I need to repeat the dosage at all?
It doesn't say to do this, but just says if redosing wait 7 days and change
30% of the water.

I have just put this fin rot treatment into my tank today. (The instructions
said to remove any carbon filters before treatment.)

Are the 2 fish likely to be cured from mild-moderate fin rot (nowhere near
the actual body) with 1 dose given correctly according to the dosage?



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.