Power filter for 20 gallon tank?

The dealer I am buying the power filter from
has two models in stock at a bargain price.

Are either of these any good?:
Penguin by Marineland model 660 PH 170 GPH
Power Sweep model 214 by Zoo Med PS-20 160 GPH

TIA,
Chris

wrote:
The dealer I am buying the power filter from
has two models in stock at a bargain price.

Are either of these any good?:
Penguin by Marineland model 660 PH 170 GPH
Power Sweep model 214 by Zoo Med PS-20 160 GPH

TIA,
Chris


I have used both these models and sold the ZooMed PS-20.
I discontinued the ML 660 years ago due to too many impeller problems.
The ML is old (1980s) technology. The Zoo Med is a OK, but a weak power
head. I only recommend it for small aquariums, and it has poor head
pressure, so it is a poor power head for UGF. I usually only sold the
ZM to customers with Vivariums.

Carl

I appreciate the advice, Carl. I think I'll give the Zoo Med PS20 a
try.
I don't want a strong current - I plan on having placid fish, like
angels.
When that powerhead dies I'll try one of the others you recommend.

I was happy to see a nice Festivum at the local pet store today.
Are Geophagus Jurapari and Kribensis still commonly available?

Chris

wrote:
I appreciate the advice, Carl. I think I'll give the Zoo Med PS20 a
try.
I don't want a strong current - I plan on having placid fish, like
angels.
When that powerhead dies I'll try one of the others you recommend.

I was happy to see a nice Festivum at the local pet store today.
Are Geophagus Jurapari and Kribensis still commonly available?

Chris

I have not seen the Geophagus around lately, but the Jurapari and
Kribensis are quite common. Someone else here may no more about
Geophagus though..

Carl

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I found a nice new, old stock Supreme Aquamaster
PMEA power filter on eBay, and won the auction.
I paid about $5.00 more than what I sold them for,
but it will be worth every penny IMO.

So while you guys laugh at me fussing with
bulk filter floss and activated carbon in a nylon bag,
I can laugh at you spending all that money
on those expensive filter cartridges.


No, I buy bulk foams of all grades thru a supplier in china.
I merely throw the replacement cartridge to someone who wants it and throw
in a slab of foam.
Maybe I make it a sandwhich of 5 grades of foam
all of which can be merely squeezed out in aquarium water and reused until I
use 'em as a pillow in me coffin.
buy once, buy right
use forever
of course then I fill the tray with some ceramic nooodle and wedge airstones
deep in its guts thru da lid.
could always rip out the impellor
and connect a powerhead to the intake
then ya got a powered prefilter powering an unplugged in (hey use a broken
one!) hangon..... best bit is, that it restarts in a electrical blackout
even if the hangon has syphoned dry.
I clean the powerhead sponge, and for powerheads I rate OTTO
they are cheap, easy to repair and die hard even in tanks with lots of
stirred up sand.
the sponges are good quality and even make great biofiltration stacked in
slow flow hangons where contact time enables better filtration




I have a great record of success with undergravel filters.
Despite your objections, my next step is to find a nice
Nektonics-style one piece UGF plate and power head.

Yea UGF suck hard
they have their place
but compared to the fluval fx5 they suck mighty hard
that said
the theory is sound and they shall be revered forever as pioneers of
biofiltration
but they are some what unpredictable and need maintenence.
but if they work for you, or ya need a hidden intank filter
then use on I say
but for me
I'd fire 'em at da sun with a rocket to make room for sponge air filters.


Which brand and model small power head is quietest?


Tunze

So here's to happy endings!
And new beginnings...

Cheers,
Chris



Well said!
Theres a million ways to keep fish mate
to each his own hey
all that matters is happy fish
and I wish ya tank loads of da suckers!

"carlrs" wrote in message
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wrote:
I appreciate the advice, Carl. I think I'll give the Zoo Med PS20 a
try.
I don't want a strong current - I plan on having placid fish, like
angels.
When that powerhead dies I'll try one of the others you recommend.

I was happy to see a nice Festivum at the local pet store today.
Are Geophagus Jurapari and Kribensis still commonly available?

Chris

I have not seen the Geophagus around lately, but the Jurapari and
Kribensis are quite common. Someone else here may no more about
Geophagus though..

Carl


the jurapari is a geo
ummm anyway theres

G. sp. Araguaia orange head
G. sp. Tapajos orange head
G. sp. "Pindare" (Parnaiba)
G. brachybranchus
G. brasiliensis
G. steindachneri
G. abalios
G. cf. altifrons "Rio Tocantins"
G. dicrozoster
G. surinamensis or what is thought to be
G. altifrons "aripuana II"
G. argyrostictus
G. sp. "Bahia Red" may be iporangensis

Then there's a few gymnos, Acarichthys heckelii and a few Satanoperca.

but hey I'm in Oz so that lists prob no help to ya
heh heh