first time using skimmer

"KurtG" wrote in message
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ONJ wrote:
Well I guess my question is, do I run it so that the bubbling water is at
the bottom of the collection cup tube and it will foam up to the top
later?
Or do I run the water level towards the top of the tube?

Definitely at the bottom or lower. I currently run mine about 6" below
the lip to the collection cup, and I had to use an anti-foaming agent to
get it to condense.

Start off with the water level low. If you don't get any skimmate, you
can always raise it later.

Great!...thats what I needed to know. Thanks man!!

You're in my killfile loser.

"Pondmeister" wrote in message
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Hope that stinking sloppy soupy skanky Gill P.'s breath smelling
crap over flows the collection cup and runs all over your parquet
floors or wall to wall carpets, and your house smells like yours wifes
crotch!

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:59:48 -0500, "ONJ" wrote:

"KurtG" wrote in message
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ONJ wrote:
My fear is if I do it will fill up during the day when I'm at work
and
overflow.

You need to skim very wet to have this happen. It only happened to
me
once (because I started kalkwasser), but my skimmer is in the sump,
so
not really an issue.

If it hasn't generated skimmage yet, chances are it's not going to
overflow anytime soon. If it's a worry, just unplug it until you
can
monitor it again.

Adjustment depends on your type of skimmer:

Well I guess my question is, do I run it so that the bubbling water is
at
the bottom of the collection cup tube and it will foam up to the top
later?
Or do I run the water level towards the top of the tube?




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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Well what took you so freaking long loser? What happened, Wayne Salle
threaten to kill file y if yu replied or did not shw him proof of the
kill file! loser!


On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:18:10 -0500, "ONJ" wrote:

You're in my killfile loser.

"Pondmeister" wrote in message
m...
Hope that stinking sloppy soupy skanky Gill P.'s breath smelling
crap over flows the collection cup and runs all over your parquet
floors or wall to wall carpets, and your house smells like yours wifes
crotch!

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:59:48 -0500, "ONJ" wrote:

"KurtG" wrote in message
. net...
ONJ wrote:
My fear is if I do it will fill up during the day when I'm at work
and
overflow.

You need to skim very wet to have this happen. It only happened to
me
once (because I started kalkwasser), but my skimmer is in the sump,
so
not really an issue.

If it hasn't generated skimmage yet, chances are it's not going to
overflow anytime soon. If it's a worry, just unplug it until you
can
monitor it again.

Adjustment depends on your type of skimmer:

Well I guess my question is, do I run it so that the bubbling water is
at
the bottom of the collection cup tube and it will foam up to the top
later?
Or do I run the water level towards the top of the tube?




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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

ITGuy wrote:
Well here is what is happening. The videos I see of skimmers show a frothy
foam boiling over into the collection cup.

If the water is filthy and the skimmer is one of the high-efficiency models,
you'll see this sort of thing. That's not normal.

Right now all I have is bubbly water, no foam or froth. When I adjust the
air inlet valve, where should the top of the bubbling water be? down in the
tube, or up top about ready to boil over?

Bubbly water is normal for a clean tank. The level of the water should be at
least 1/4" and no more than 1" below the bottom of the uprise tube into the
collection cup. If the water is into the tube, you have a problem. The fix
depends on the type of skimmer. With mine, the problem could be either too much
water flow or too much air flow. With a venturi skimmer, water flow is the only
parameter.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

ITGuy wrote:
Well here is something I noticed this morning. Quite a few bristleworms,
can't tell if they are dead or not, floating at the top towards the back of
the tank. I heard that a skimmer removes the proteins that some of the
clean up crew need. If this is the case, could I be killing my clean up
crew with the skimmer?

Bristle worms eat things much more substantial than the crud a skimmer removes.
Something else is killing your worms.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

ONJ wrote:

Well I guess my question is, do I run it so that the bubbling water is at
the bottom of the collection cup tube and it will foam up to the top later?


Yep - that's about right. The water actually should be between 1/4" and 1" below
the bottom of the tube.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

ONJ wrote:
You're in my killfile loser.

Don't quote people like this. Those of us who have had this guy in a killfile
for a long time would prefer not to see his drivel in your posts.

Of course, if you want to get into a lot of killfiles, then ignore this advice.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

George Patterson wrote:
If the water is filthy and the skimmer is one of the high-efficiency
models, you'll see this sort of thing. That's not normal.

Mine always looks like that, although it moves like a glacier. For some
reason, my foam refuses to condense, so after it forms, it will give the
illusion of a slow motion boiling over mass of foam.

Without an anti-foaming agent, the will occupy every space available and
then foam out of every orifice that it can find. I haven't heard of
this happening to anybody else.

--Kurt

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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ITGuy wrote:
Well here is something I noticed this morning. Quite a few bristleworms,
can't tell if they are dead or not, floating at the top towards the back
of the tank. I heard that a skimmer removes the proteins that some of
the clean up crew need. If this is the case, could I be killing my clean
up crew with the skimmer?

Bristle worms eat things much more substantial than the crud a skimmer
removes. Something else is killing your worms.

Actually I looked and they are alive. I think someone else hit the nail on
the head. The bubbles are sticking to them and lifting them to the top of
the tank.

So I guess the question is, will the bubbles in the tank start to go away
once the skimmer is broken in and it starts foaming?

Just send it to a collection container.

In my opinion, it's silly to make protein skimmers
with collection cups. I think they all should just
be made to feed into a separate collection
container. via hose.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 6/6/2007 10:04 AM:
George Patterson wrote:
If the water is filthy and the skimmer is one of the high-efficiency
models, you'll see this sort of thing. That's not normal.

Mine always looks like that, although it moves like a glacier. For some
reason, my foam refuses to condense, so after it forms, it will give the
illusion of a slow motion boiling over mass of foam.

Without an anti-foaming agent, the will occupy every space available and
then foam out of every orifice that it can find. I haven't heard of
this happening to anybody else.

--Kurt