Fishless tank cycling

Can anyone give me a source for ammonia so I can do some fishless tank
cycling? All the grocery stores near me have ammonia, but it has
surfactant in it.

Andy

"Andy Pastuszak" wrote in message
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Can anyone give me a source for ammonia so I can do some fishless tank
cycling? All the grocery stores near me have ammonia, but it has
surfactant in it.

Andy



I'm not saying it......

Andy Pastuszak wrote:
Can anyone give me a source for ammonia so I can do some fishless tank
cycling? All the grocery stores near me have ammonia, but it has
surfactant in it.

Andy

How about urea? It is in many off-the-shelf fertilizers, the first
stage in the aquarium is its' conversion to ammonia ... just a thought.

I purchased an 80 lb. sack from an agricultural/agchem supply in my
area. It was less that $20USD for a lifetime supply! The stuff I use
is in "prill" form.

Regards,
JS

On Nov 16, 2:15*pm, John Smith wrote:
Andy Pastuszak wrote:
Can anyone give me a source for ammonia so I can do some fishless tank
cycling? *All the grocery stores near me have ammonia, but it has
surfactant in it.

Andy

How about urea? *It is in many off-the-shelf fertilizers, the first
stage in the aquarium is its' conversion to ammonia ... just a thought.

I purchased an 80 lb. sack from an agricultural/agchem supply in my
area. *It was less that $20USD for a lifetime supply! *The stuff I use
is in "prill" form.

Regards,
JS

No one gives a **** what you use Johnnie Boi. Last I heard you put
your wifes panties in the tank to cycle it. Folks need to run right
out and buy a 80# bag of crap only you would use........ You mean its
in PRICK form like you and your momma.........

On Nov 16, 1:17*pm, "JKconey" wrote:
"Andy Pastuszak" wrote in message

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Can anyone give me a source for ammonia so I can do some fishless tank
cycling? *All the grocery stores near me have ammonia, but it has
surfactant in it.

Andy

* *I'm not saying it......

Just **** in the tank dude.............Or you can do like Johnnie Boi
Smith does and **** in it and take a bath in it too..His wife and
momma cycles Johnny Bois tanks with their douche water for faster
cycle times.

On Nov 17, 9:29*am, Tynk wrote:
On Nov 16, 1:17*pm, "JKconey" wrote:

"Andy Pastuszak" wrote in message

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Can anyone give me a source for ammonia so I can do some fishless tank
cycling? *All the grocery stores near me have ammonia, but it has
surfactant in it.

Andy

* *I'm not saying it......

= )~

Nasty, nasty, nasty. lol

If you go to something like a Wal-mart, look for the most generic
ammonia they sell. It's usually pure ammonia - no additives or scents.

Nasty is in the persons mind. YOu into golden showers etc so be it,
but **** is a perfect source of ammonia and there is nothing ugly or
nasty about it. Were not talking about needing a liter of the the
stuff only needs about a cc or so to seed the tank................and
in no time there will be no signs of it left anywhere........

Tynk wrote:


If you go to something like a Wal-mart, look for the most generic
ammonia they sell. It's usually pure ammonia - no additives or scents.

That's what I did at the grocery store, looked at the generic no-frills
stuff and every last one said "contains surfactants."

I guess I'll have to keep hunting...

Andy

John Smith wrote:

Nasty is in the persons mind. YOu into golden showers etc so be it,
but **** is a perfect source of ammonia and there is nothing ugly or
nasty about it. Were not talking about needing a liter of the the
stuff only needs about a cc or so to seed the tank................and
in no time there will be no signs of it left anywhere........

**** actually is not a good source of ammonia. Urine has diluted UREA
in it, not ammonia. The nitrogenous waste byproduct by animal groups
that I know of a

Fish and amphibians - Ammonia
Reptiles and Birds - Uric Acid
Mammals - Urea

In fish, the ammonia is excreted directly and immediately dissolves in
the water around it.

Uric acid comes out as-is. Hence why bird poop can sometimes take the
paint off a car

In Mammals, urea is diluted with water to make urine.

I honestly don't know if Nitrosomus sp. can digest urea. May need to
check...

Not that I am going to **** in my tank...

Andy

John Smith wrote:

No one gives a **** what you use Johnnie Boi. Last I heard you put
your wifes panties in the tank to cycle it. Folks need to run right
out and buy a 80# bag of crap only you would use........ You mean its
in PRICK form like you and your momma.........

Get a life.

Thank God for kill files.

Andy

Andy Pastuszak wrote:

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**** actually is not a good source of ammonia. Urine has diluted UREA
in it, not ammonia. The nitrogenous waste byproduct by animal groups
that I know of a
...
Andy

Absolutely correct. However, often you will hear the "experts/gurus"
start the nitrogen cycle with ammonia, [ammonia - nitrites - nitrates.]

However, it is actually, [urea - ammonia - nitrites - nitrates.]
And, urea is actually 90-95% percent of the solids in urine. So, it
gets a much more "natural" nitrogen cycle going in your tanks if you
begin with urea; as, micro-organisms/phytoplankton/algaes/etc. break the
molecular bonds of urea to ammonia in the first place; you need these
organisms also ...

Regards,
JS