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Old March 9th 05, 06:02 PM
Chris Gentry
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Hi,
I have a false percula clownfish that I bought about a week ago. It
appears to be doing fine, and is very active, but just after I bought it, I
noticed a large white spot on its side. It looks like a large grain of
sugar. I've watched it really close, and it hasn't seemed to grow, and no
others have appeared, so I didn't know if this was ok? Does anyone know
what this might be? Or if I can try to remove it? Thanks -Chris


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Old March 9th 05, 08:45 PM
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Sounds like ICH.

Do a google and you will find a billion ways to cure it. Hyposalinty is the
best followed by copper. For both treatments you need to remove the fish
from the tank and QT him in a tank without live rock.

If you are lucky keep the fish feed well and non stressed and he should
fight it off himself. He must have been stressed at the LFS and he got ich.

Good luck!

R






"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
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Hi,
I have a false percula clownfish that I bought about a week ago. It
appears to be doing fine, and is very active, but just after I bought it,

I
noticed a large white spot on its side. It looks like a large grain of
sugar. I've watched it really close, and it hasn't seemed to grow, and no
others have appeared, so I didn't know if this was ok? Does anyone know
what this might be? Or if I can try to remove it? Thanks -Chris




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Old March 9th 05, 09:53 PM
George Patterson
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Mr Dad wrote:

Sounds like ICH.


Sal****er ick is about the size of a pinpoint, and it doesn't come as a single
spot. This isn't ick.

George Patterson
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Old March 9th 05, 09:52 PM
George Patterson
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Chris Gentry wrote:

Hi,
I have a false percula clownfish that I bought about a week ago. It
appears to be doing fine, and is very active, but just after I bought it, I
noticed a large white spot on its side. It looks like a large grain of
sugar. I've watched it really close, and it hasn't seemed to grow, and no
others have appeared, so I didn't know if this was ok? Does anyone know
what this might be? Or if I can try to remove it? Thanks -Chris



Well, since there's only one of them, it can't be white spot disease. It's
probably something akin to lymphocystis, which is harmless. Just keep an eye on
it.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.
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Old March 10th 05, 05:19 PM
Mr Dad
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George some of the initial outbreaks have to start somewhere. I have seen
it as a single grain. Or at least that is all that is sometimes noticed. If
the fish do not fight it off it could be more.

Again since it is common that is why I pointed in that direction.

Good luck




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Chris Gentry wrote:

Hi,
I have a false percula clownfish that I bought about a week ago. It
appears to be doing fine, and is very active, but just after I bought

it, I
noticed a large white spot on its side. It looks like a large grain of
sugar. I've watched it really close, and it hasn't seemed to grow, and

no
others have appeared, so I didn't know if this was ok? Does anyone know
what this might be? Or if I can try to remove it? Thanks -Chris



Well, since there's only one of them, it can't be white spot disease. It's
probably something akin to lymphocystis, which is harmless. Just keep an

eye on
it.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.



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Old March 10th 05, 05:43 PM
George Patterson
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Mr Dad wrote:

George some of the initial outbreaks have to start somewhere. I have seen
it as a single grain. Or at least that is all that is sometimes noticed. If
the fish do not fight it off it could be more.


Yes, but it's been there for a week and no more have developed. White spot
would've spread fairly rapidly.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.
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Old March 10th 05, 05:53 PM
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It could also be an injury. Maybe the little guy bumped into a jagged
rock or something.
I've seen an injury that can somewhat look like a "Ich Grain".

George Patterson wrote:

Mr Dad wrote:


George some of the initial outbreaks have to start somewhere. I have seen
it as a single grain. Or at least that is all that is sometimes noticed. If
the fish do not fight it off it could be more.



Yes, but it's been there for a week and no more have developed. White spot
would've spread fairly rapidly.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.



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Old March 10th 05, 06:55 PM
Mr Dad
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I missed that it has been there for a week. If it did not spread it should have at least fallen off.

R






"RicSeyler" wrote in message ...
It could also be an injury. Maybe the little guy bumped into a jagged rock or something.
I've seen an injury that can somewhat look like a "Ich Grain".

George Patterson wrote:

Mr Dad wrote:
George some of the initial outbreaks have to start somewhere. I have seen
it as a single grain. Or at least that is all that is sometimes noticed. If
the fish do not fight it off it could be more.

Yes, but it's been there for a week and no more have developed. White spot
would've spread fairly rapidly.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.


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Ric Seyler


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Old March 11th 05, 05:17 PM
Chris Gentry
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"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
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Hi,
I have a false percula clownfish that I bought about a week ago. It
appears to be doing fine, and is very active, but just after I bought it,

I
noticed a large white spot on its side. It looks like a large grain of
sugar. I've watched it really close, and it hasn't seemed to grow, and no
others have appeared, so I didn't know if this was ok? Does anyone know
what this might be? Or if I can try to remove it? Thanks -Chris


Update:
Well so far there is still only one white spot, but it has grown just
slightly. I'm still a little worried. The fish appears to be very
active,however, and it has been feeding regularly. There is no sign of
clamped fins or anything like that.

My water parameters are a little off in the nitrate department (around
15ppm), and I have a nice growth of GHA. Could this maybe be stressing the
fish out? I've done a few partial water changes to bring the nitrates down,
but it doesn't last long.

I had the tank up for approx. 3 months with nothing but 3 blue-legged
hermits in it. Then I moved it (and disturbed the DSB, and got the LR cold
{approx. 55F}) From there I left it up 1 month and then took a sample in
for my LFS to test. Everything checked out ok, so I added a small piece of
Green star polyps, and a few purple mushrooms. I also added a mated pair of
ocellaris clowns. Shortly thereafter I got a bad outbreak of diatoms. So I
put some phosban in the canister filter (running with no floss media, just
for water flow mainly, and a place to put carbon if needed) and the diatoms
cleared up. about a week later GHA started, and I haven't been able to get
rid of it since. My light period is on for 12 hours a day.


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Old March 12th 05, 10:32 AM
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Hi Chris,
You need to find the source of your Nitrate problem pretty
quick as Nitrate is not at all good for corals in that amount, a very
small amount is necessary, by very small I mean an amount that will not
register on aquarium test kits. It's very hard to try and give a
diagnosis from your limited description, but I can make a few points
for you to consider. First I have no idea how big your tank is or your
method of filtration. I could make a wild guess and say you are using
tap water?, and some form of Biological filtration, Biowheel?, or wet &
dry?. Normally if you get an infection of GHA you would expect to see a
low nitrate reading (the GHA consumes the Nitrate as it is produced) a
reading as high as yours means something is producing large amounts,
Phosphate will also fuel GHA but it will normally de pleat the nitrate
in preference to the phosphate. Your outbreak of diatoms (I assume they
were brown)is caused by silicates and usually appear around the end of
the initial tank cycle. Disturbing the DSB would not be a problem so
short a time after set-up. Letting your live rock drop to 55F was a
disaster you now have dead rock!!. Water temp ? 79F-82F, Water flow
rate ? about 20 times the tanks volume per hour. Lighting ? I could go
on but I think I've mentioned all the major problems. If you would like
to post full details of your tank and all the parameters actual numbers
not just ok I will try to be more specific. Oh your fish has not got
ich it could be a small injury with a fungal growth on it, I would be
more worried about your corals and general tank condition.
regards,
unclenorm.


Chris Gentry wrote:
"Chris Gentry" wrote in message
news:gTGXd.110202$4q6.67509@attbi_s01...
Hi,
I have a false percula clownfish that I bought about a week

ago. It
appears to be doing fine, and is very active, but just after I

bought it,
I
noticed a large white spot on its side. It looks like a large

grain of
sugar. I've watched it really close, and it hasn't seemed to grow,

and no
others have appeared, so I didn't know if this was ok? Does anyone

know
what this might be? Or if I can try to remove it? Thanks -Chris


Update:
Well so far there is still only one white spot, but it has grown just
slightly. I'm still a little worried. The fish appears to be very
active,however, and it has been feeding regularly. There is no sign

of
clamped fins or anything like that.

My water parameters are a little off in the nitrate department

(around
15ppm), and I have a nice growth of GHA. Could this maybe be

stressing the
fish out? I've done a few partial water changes to bring the

nitrates down,
but it doesn't last long.

I had the tank up for approx. 3 months with nothing but 3 blue-legged
hermits in it. Then I moved it (and disturbed the DSB, and got the

LR cold
{approx. 55F}) From there I left it up 1 month and then took a

sample in
for my LFS to test. Everything checked out ok, so I added a small

piece of
Green star polyps, and a few purple mushrooms. I also added a mated

pair of
ocellaris clowns. Shortly thereafter I got a bad outbreak of

diatoms. So I
put some phosban in the canister filter (running with no floss media,

just
for water flow mainly, and a place to put carbon if needed) and the

diatoms
cleared up. about a week later GHA started, and I haven't been able

to get
rid of it since. My light period is on for 12 hours a day.


 




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