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"Bill" wrote in message
news:gAiYd.70979$Tt.49598@fed1read05... Hi all, I'm doing a fishless cycle on my 20H tank. I've been testing ammonia and nitrite daily, but haven't been testing nitrate very much. I figured there wasn't any point to it until I saw nitrite, and the nitrate test is a royal pain to do -- it's the Aquarium Pharmaceuticals test, where you have to add 10 drops of one solution, shake the 2nd solution for 30 seconds, add 10 drops of it, and shake the test tube for another minute. The last time I tested nitrate was March 4th, when I first added the ammonia, and the result was 0 ppm. Since then, I've done daily ammonia and nitrite tests and gotten 4 and 0 ppm, respectively. On March 6th, I dropped some food in the water to add a little phosphate to the system, based on http://tinyurl.com/53dvn, http://tinyurl.com/4z65a, and http://www.algone.com/fishless_cycling.htm; I also adjusted the temperature from 80F (set there from 78F the day before) to 82 (to promote the bacterial growth), and it's been fluctuating 81/82 (by whole degree) since then. However, it's actually been less than about half a degree on the analog thermometer I have on the tank. Keeping in mind that my tap water tests negative for nitrate, I tested the big three last night. I read 4 ppm ammonia, which I expected, 0 ppm, which I also expected, and about 2.5 ppm (maybe 1-2.5) nitrate, which I most certainly did *not* expect. On the card, it matched neither the bright yellow of the 0 reading nor the light orange of the 5 reading. It was slightly orange and certainly darker than the bright yellow. Keeping in mind what NetMax said about the differences in color perception between males and females, I saved the samples to show to my wife, who was out at the time. She agreed with me. I shook the second bottle of nitrate test solution vigorously for 30 seconds and the test tube for one minute, as directed. (I timed it.) I'm also positive of the nitrite test results, and it's only been just under a week since I first added the ammonia. I can think of three possibilities, the first and simplest of which is operator error. Second, it could have been the decaying food producing nitrate directly -- the water smelled less strongly last night than it had for the first few days after adding the small amount of food (what would be probably three or four feedings' worth in a fully-stocked 20 gallon tank). Third, and least likely, IMO, is that the bacteria are responsible for it, even though I have no measurable quantities of nitrite yet. Anyone have any ideas? I agree that the NO3 test is a PITA (FYI: and if you leave the solution to sit, it gets darker). I wouldn't worry about a few readings which don't quite fit. Cycling is proven when you have no NH3/4, no NO2 and lots of NO3. There are many things which can skew the results in between. Aerobic nitrifying bacteria is in the air (and in higher percentages if you already have fish, like your Bettas), and if you have more of the nitrospiras for some reason (like when you added Stress-Zyme which I think is a wide spectrum bacterial mix), then they could be moving the NO2 to NO3 faster than expected. When you think it's cycled, you can add some ammonia (about 2ppm) and check to see if it has been converted to NO3 after 24 hours. -- www.NetMax.tk |
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