substrate question

yes problem got the wrong stuff,,,, I just think when you spend 1000 bucks
on stuff in your tank why would I put play sand that is not made for my
tank....Its not that I disagree with you. I just would not do it

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"RicSeyler" wrote in message
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Yes, Southdown gets very milky, but as soon as the bacteria starts taking
over
it settles out. And that very fine texture is beneficial to a DSB.
Southdown isn't
silica sand it's calcium based, so it can't release silica into your tank,
and Southdown
is absolutely the proper grain shape for sandbed creatures.

Sounds like you did what I described in my previous post in this thread.
Bought the wrong stuff.........

It is wise to screen Southdown for any foreign particles or objects.
As it's not intended for reef tanks and could have foreign debris in it.

Rich R wrote:

Its a MUDDY mess at first ,,,Their texture isn't suitable for sand bed
creatures, they seem to release silicates into the water, and also contain
various other minerals that aren't good for your tank ...its your tank
,,,what ever works for you man



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Rich, I am pretty sure it is the same stuff you are paying for. I have
CaribSea also but because I could not find the "Play Sand".

When I started putting together the costs for a DSb for a 200G aquarium
CaribSea the cost of the samd started coming in at $400. At that cost, play
sand looks better except that I cannot find it except on Ebay for the same
cost as CaribSea.


"Rich R" wrote in message
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yes problem got the wrong stuff,,,, I just think when you spend 1000 bucks
on stuff in your tank why would I put play sand that is not made for my
tank....Its not that I disagree with you. I just would not do it

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"RicSeyler" wrote in message
. ..
Yes, Southdown gets very milky, but as soon as the bacteria starts taking
over
it settles out. And that very fine texture is beneficial to a DSB.
Southdown isn't
silica sand it's calcium based, so it can't release silica into your
tank, and Southdown
is absolutely the proper grain shape for sandbed creatures.

Sounds like you did what I described in my previous post in this thread.
Bought the wrong stuff.........

It is wise to screen Southdown for any foreign particles or objects.
As it's not intended for reef tanks and could have foreign debris in it.

Rich R wrote:

Its a MUDDY mess at first ,,,Their texture isn't suitable for sand bed
creatures, they seem to release silicates into the water, and also
contain various other minerals that aren't good for your tank ...its your
tank ,,,what ever works for you man



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A year or so ago there was a big run on Southdown. Back then you could
talk some of the Home Depot managers to order some in for you. As it wasn't
distributed to all Home Depot outlets. Then the rumor goes that Home Depot
caught wind that the Southdown was being used for reef tanks and told
managers
not to order in the sand. And there were even rumors that if a Home
Depot manager
found out it was being purchased for reef tanks, they would refuse to
sell it to the customer,
per Home Depot instructions.

John Maag wrote:

Rich, I am pretty sure it is the same stuff you are paying for. I have
CaribSea also but because I could not find the "Play Sand".

When I started putting together the costs for a DSb for a 200G aquarium
CaribSea the cost of the samd started coming in at $400. At that cost, play
sand looks better except that I cannot find it except on Ebay for the same
cost as CaribSea.


"Rich R" wrote in message
...


yes problem got the wrong stuff,,,, I just think when you spend 1000 bucks
on stuff in your tank why would I put play sand that is not made for my
tank....Its not that I disagree with you. I just would not do it

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www.nydiver.com
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"RicSeyler" wrote in message
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Yes, Southdown gets very milky, but as soon as the bacteria starts taking
over
it settles out. And that very fine texture is beneficial to a DSB.
Southdown isn't
silica sand it's calcium based, so it can't release silica into your
tank, and Southdown
is absolutely the proper grain shape for sandbed creatures.

Sounds like you did what I described in my previous post in this thread.
Bought the wrong stuff.........

It is wise to screen Southdown for any foreign particles or objects.
As it's not intended for reef tanks and could have foreign debris in it.

Rich R wrote:



Its a MUDDY mess at first ,,,Their texture isn't suitable for sand bed
creatures, they seem to release silicates into the water, and also
contain various other minerals that aren't good for your tank ...its your
tank ,,,what ever works for you man




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I hear what your saying, but cal based sand, is cal based sand...
And MUCH cheaper than Caribsea. Just had to make sure there
was no foreign objects in it.

Rich R wrote:

yes problem got the wrong stuff,,,, I just think when you spend 1000 bucks
on stuff in your tank why would I put play sand that is not made for my
tank....Its not that I disagree with you. I just would not do it




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Ric Seyler

Is cal calcium or California. What do you use if not CaribSea aand
Southdown?

"RicSeyler" wrote in message
.. .
I hear what your saying, but cal based sand, is cal based sand...
And MUCH cheaper than Caribsea. Just had to make sure there
was no foreign objects in it.

Rich R wrote:

yes problem got the wrong stuff,,,, I just think when you spend 1000 bucks
on stuff in your tank why would I put play sand that is not made for my
tank....Its not that I disagree with you. I just would not do it



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Ric Seyler

Yea, Calcium based -vs- silica based.

You are just about limited to CaribSea or if your lucky to live
in an area where Home Depot happens to stock Southdown.
CaribSea has a pretty big slice of the market.

A friend of mine bought a Train Car Load of sand from the
Caribbean supplier of SouthDown and sold it off as AcroTech Reef Sand.

He had access to a loading dock and Magnet/Screeners.

I sold off a few pallets of it in my area. It was really nice stuff
and sold it for half the price of CaribSea. So everyone was happy :-)
The area Home Depots wouldn't stock SouthDown.

Now some Pros use silica sand and report no ill effects.
My island is completely pure white sugar sand but it's Silica based
(Santa Rosa Island)
But I went with CAL based sand for my SPS tank. But I used my "Yard" for
the Nano tank :-)



John Maag wrote:

Is cal calcium or California. What do you use if not CaribSea aand
Southdown?




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