New plants and new disease to identify

I believe the broad leaf one you have pictured is your standard cryp. The
other one may be anachris. I'm no plant expert so you might want to ask the
people in rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants.

Justin

"Peter Demski" wrote in message
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Well I finally got tired of plastic plants and put some live ones in. Two
of
which
I wasn't able to identify with my (extremely) limited plant knowledge. I
figured for
$3 it wasn't a bad deal. Can anyone Identify them by the pics on my tank
page?

Also I had noticed for a few days that one of my guppies fins started to
get
shorter.
A few days later I noticed a white 'line' around the edge of the tail fin.
At this point
I took her out and put her into a quarantine tank I have. The tank is at
80F with
about 1/2 the amount of salt suggested for a 10 gal tank. She is also
missing some
scales below the dorsal fin. I am not aware of any mechanical damage that
could
have happened. Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I didn't add the
new
plants until after the sick fish was taken out so they are not related.


My tank page link:
http://www.rl-anime.com/aquaria.html

Please take a look and let me know if you can identify anything in there

Well I finally got tired of plastic plants and put some live ones in. Two of
which
I wasn't able to identify with my (extremely) limited plant knowledge. I
figured for
$3 it wasn't a bad deal. Can anyone Identify them by the pics on my tank
page?

Also I had noticed for a few days that one of my guppies fins started to get
shorter.
A few days later I noticed a white 'line' around the edge of the tail fin.
At this point
I took her out and put her into a quarantine tank I have. The tank is at
80F with
about 1/2 the amount of salt suggested for a 10 gal tank. She is also
missing some
scales below the dorsal fin. I am not aware of any mechanical damage that
could
have happened. Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I didn't add the
new
plants until after the sick fish was taken out so they are not related.


My tank page link:
http://www.rl-anime.com/aquaria.html

Please take a look and let me know if you can identify anything in there

If you need more help identifying plants and more try out
rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants - there you may find a lot more
information. Later!

It looks like the first plant you showed on your website starting from
the top and to the bottom (as far as the unidentified plants go) is
either anachris or elodia/egeria densia. Both are often mistaken for
the other. Anachris is a mostly cold water plant while elodea/egeria
usually does a lot better in warmer waters. The second plant is either
hornwort or myrphyllium and the hornwort also is mostly colder water (I
have only had incredible success with hornwort when the water was no
warmer than 68 degrees fahrenheit) of a plant while myrphillium is
generally a warmer water plant. Except for some fin and tail rot (or at
the very least other fish are nipping her tail) your guppy looks fine.
She will need medicine while she is in the hospital tank until fully
cured. The progressive salt treatment might work instead of harsh
chemicals though. Read up on the pros and cons of both types of
treatments without doing anything but the sooner she is treated the
better. You might very well get a better diagnoses from other users
here but I am just trying to help as best as I can. I have healed fish
from fungus with the progressive salt treatment before and with dip
medications but fortunately since I grew up after starting out young in
this hobby I have kept such good care of my fish that they almost never
get sick so I don't have extensive experience with fish medicine.
Generally the harsh chemicals only work if you remove the carbon
filtration (if you use it - that's because the carbon filtration will
absorb the chemicals before they have any effect) and may kill plants
or sensitive fish and of course might uncycle (kill the good bacteria)
an aquarium and kill invertebrates like snails. Salt can do that
somewhat too so that's why having a hospital tank is important but is
still usually way less extreme than the chemical method. Good luck and
I like your tank's beauty!

Peter Demski wrote:
Well I finally got tired of plastic plants and put some live ones in. Two of
which
I wasn't able to identify with my (extremely) limited plant knowledge. I
figured for
$3 it wasn't a bad deal. Can anyone Identify them by the pics on my tank
page?

Also I had noticed for a few days that one of my guppies fins started to get
shorter.
A few days later I noticed a white 'line' around the edge of the tail fin.
At this point
I took her out and put her into a quarantine tank I have. The tank is at
80F with
about 1/2 the amount of salt suggested for a 10 gal tank. She is also
missing some
scales below the dorsal fin. I am not aware of any mechanical damage that
could
have happened. Anyone have any suggestions on this one? I didn't add the
new
plants until after the sick fish was taken out so they are not related.


My tank page link:
http://www.rl-anime.com/aquaria.html

Please take a look and let me know if you can identify anything in there


I see you've got the crypt identified. It should grow very well for you
if you use an iron fertilizer. Tetra Florapride is a good one to start
with since it has iron and potash. Not sure on your second plant - I
agree with Videoman's choices. The third is definately hornwort and
grows well floating up close to the lights.

Your guppy has tail rot. That usually means that there is a water
quality problem in the tank. You must test the main tank for ammonia
and nitrite and see if the pH has changed from its usual reading. It
should be between 7 and 8 for guppies.

In the quarantine, do small, frequent water changes to keep the water
quality very high. Salt is good, and I'd also treat her with melafix to
help her immune system fight off the bacteria and keep the fin from
developing fungus.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__

Well I was out of town this weekend and came back to a couple
surprises. The guppy that I had placed in my quarantine tank was
dead and covered with fuzz. The big surprise was there were 9
fry swimming around in the tank also. They don't show any
signs of disease or any other problems though. Apparently the
2 new plants like my tank. the second one that everyone is not
sure of grew about 2 inches and the hornwort grew about 6-7"+.
At first I though the fish had somehow pulled the plants up fron
the gravel but I then realized it had just grew that much. So
good and bad new this weekend. Hopefully everything will
be fine from here on out. BTW my readings a
Ammonia:0ppm
Nitrites:0ppm
Nitrates: 20ppm
Ph:7.8(as usual)
Temp:79F

Anyone have any idea why my plants went crazy for the 3 days I was gone?

My page can be viewed he
http://www.rl-anime.com/aquaria.html

Just scroll down for the pics.


I see you've got the crypt identified. It should grow very well for you
if you use an iron fertilizer. Tetra Florapride is a good one to start
with since it has iron and potash. Not sure on your second plant - I
agree with Videoman's choices. The third is definately hornwort and grows
well floating up close to the lights.

Your guppy has tail rot. That usually means that there is a water quality
problem in the tank. You must test the main tank for ammonia and nitrite
and see if the pH has changed from its usual reading. It should be
between 7 and 8 for guppies.

In the quarantine, do small, frequent water changes to keep the water
quality very high. Salt is good, and I'd also treat her with melafix to
help her immune system fight off the bacteria and keep the fin from
developing fungus.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__

In message , Peter
Demski writes

Well I was out of town this weekend and came back to a couple
surprises. The guppy that I had placed in my quarantine tank was
dead and covered with fuzz. The big surprise was there were 9
fry swimming around in the tank also. They don't show any
signs of disease or any other problems though. Apparently the
2 new plants like my tank. the second one that everyone is not
sure of grew about 2 inches and the hornwort grew about 6-7"+.
At first I though the fish had somehow pulled the plants up fron
the gravel but I then realized it had just grew that much. So
good and bad new this weekend. Hopefully everything will
be fine from here on out. BTW my readings a
Ammonia:0ppm
Nitrites:0ppm
Nitrates: 20ppm
Ph:7.8(as usual)
Temp:79F

Anyone have any idea why my plants went crazy for the 3 days I was gone?

hornwort does that.

in 5 weeks the small bunch in my 13 gallon provided enough trimmings to
virtually fill the 47 gallon...

--
sophie