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Old May 2nd 05, 09:09 PM
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I know what you mean.
I am doing alright with it, but it just doesnt make any roots at the
bottom.
I usually bury it in the gravel to hold, but it either rots or the fish
suck too much on it, and I have it flooting in the water.

I really want that plant to develop, it is beautiful.

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Old May 2nd 05, 11:00 PM
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I know what you mean.
I am doing alright with it, but it just doesnt make any roots at the
bottom.
I usually bury it in the gravel to hold, but it either rots or the fish
suck too much on it, and I have it flooting in the water.

I really want that plant to develop, it is beautiful.



I wrap them in lead weight as well, but in groups of about 4 to 5 (less
is too thin, more and they lose their bottom leaves), but I found that it
was difficult to not damage the stems with the lead, so I first wrap the
stems in a pinch of thin sponge, and then put the lead over that. Other
tricks are to snip off the ends of each stem (unless they already have
roots), and to be very careful to not damage the ends when planting
(place them in a depression and then push substrate in to fill the hole).
You can also put a small piece of fertilizer near the roots. I've seen
these mentioned http://www.petmeister.com/item801.htm and Elaine is using
Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Root Tabs plus Iron laterite pellets. hth
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Old May 3rd 05, 12:12 AM
Elaine T
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NetMax wrote:
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I know what you mean.
I am doing alright with it, but it just doesnt make any roots at the
bottom.
I usually bury it in the gravel to hold, but it either rots or the fish
suck too much on it, and I have it flooting in the water.

I really want that plant to develop, it is beautiful.




I wrap them in lead weight as well, but in groups of about 4 to 5 (less
is too thin, more and they lose their bottom leaves), but I found that it
was difficult to not damage the stems with the lead, so I first wrap the
stems in a pinch of thin sponge, and then put the lead over that. Other
tricks are to snip off the ends of each stem (unless they already have
roots), and to be very careful to not damage the ends when planting
(place them in a depression and then push substrate in to fill the hole).
You can also put a small piece of fertilizer near the roots. I've seen
these mentioned http://www.petmeister.com/item801.htm and Elaine is using
Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Root Tabs plus Iron laterite pellets. hth


There's another good product for a few dollars by Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals called Plant Plugs. They're rockwool with a stretchy
netting to hold stems against the rockwool. You put the stems between
the netting and rockwool or into slits in the rockwool and then you bury
the whole thing in the gravel. The rockwool has fertilizer for the
first couple of months to help root development and then you start using
the fertilizer tabs NetMax mentioned. (Good memory, BTW!) They're the
best product I've ever found to help difficult stem plants stay
submerged and root - saved my otherwise impossible Rotala macrantha many
years ago.

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Old May 3rd 05, 09:33 AM
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Elaine T wrote:
NetMax wrote:

wrote in message
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I know what you mean.
I am doing alright with it, but it just doesnt make any roots at the
bottom.
I usually bury it in the gravel to hold, but it either rots or the fish
suck too much on it, and I have it flooting in the water.

I really want that plant to develop, it is beautiful.





I wrap them in lead weight as well, but in groups of about 4 to 5
(less is too thin, more and they lose their bottom leaves), but I
found that it was difficult to not damage the stems with the lead, so
I first wrap the stems in a pinch of thin sponge, and then put the
lead over that. Other tricks are to snip off the ends of each stem
(unless they already have roots), and to be very careful to not damage
the ends when planting (place them in a depression and then push
substrate in to fill the hole). You can also put a small piece of
fertilizer near the roots. I've seen these mentioned
http://www.petmeister.com/item801.htm and Elaine is using Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals Root Tabs plus Iron laterite pellets. hth



There's another good product for a few dollars by Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals called Plant Plugs. They're rockwool with a stretchy
netting to hold stems against the rockwool. You put the stems between
the netting and rockwool or into slits in the rockwool and then you bury
the whole thing in the gravel. The rockwool has fertilizer for the
first couple of months to help root development and then you start using
the fertilizer tabs NetMax mentioned. (Good memory, BTW!) They're the
best product I've ever found to help difficult stem plants stay
submerged and root - saved my otherwise impossible Rotala macrantha many
years ago.

I got the brand wrong. They're Aquarium Products.

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Old May 3rd 05, 10:32 AM
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On 2 May 2005 13:09:09 -0700, "
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I know what you mean.
I am doing alright with it, but it just doesnt make any roots at the
bottom.
I usually bury it in the gravel to hold, but it either rots or the fish
suck too much on it, and I have it flooting in the water.

I really want that plant to develop, it is beautiful.


I have a 10 gallon quarantine tank with no gravel. I have found some
plants do ok weighted and no gravel. A couple of times I moved the
plants to a 29 gallon community tank while I had medicine in the
quarantine tank. Again I let them float on the bottom only to find
some planted themselves, the roots just extended from the bottom stems
into the gravel.

As to your pet plant, I have no specific knowledge. How about
planting half of what you have and floating the other half and see
what happens.

Perhaps someone will have direct experience, so much nicer than making
guesses.

dick
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Old May 4th 05, 11:37 PM
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I like to let my java fern, hornwort, and wisteria float as they get
more light this way because the light is closer. The plants definitely
grow more this way for me. Just my experience, later!

 




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