Water change = new surprises

Again, I really doubt it's the frogs too ..unless together they ganged up
on a fish. And I don't think it's a bullfrog as they have remained small
since first finding them last summer. Only difference is they have
multiplied to three from the single one I found last year. They don't make
any sound at all, and their faces are more pointed than flat. Unlike a
bullfrog these are pretty delicate looking creatures. Except for the 2
small fry (I think they're imported trout from a friend's wild pond) there
appear to be no young goldies this season. But the remaining 3 have grown
twice their original 3". And they sure are bright! Just a shame we lost
the original 3 skubunkins as they were the same size and quite beautiful.
Sniff.



"axemanchris" wrote in message
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"Jack" wrote in message
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Hi.
It's year 2 and just did a full water change on our little 300 gallon
pond.
Found a few surprises when the pool was emptied.
First off, about a week ago I was out of town for 6 days and when I came
back I decided to do the water change as it was pretty mungy as I left.
At
the time of leaving there were 5 fish (from the original 6) that survived
our mild winter: 3 goldies, 2 skubunkins(?) Now, after doing the water
change I found only 3 goldies, 2 tiny fingerlings (look like imported
trout
from a friends wild pond), and 3 - 3" frogs!
My concern is, what happened to the 2 skubunkins while I was away? No
bodies found at the bottom. Neighbourhood cats? ..nah, the pond sides
are
too steep and no plants we disturbed. Not aware of any raccoons in the
area
either, and again nothing disturbed. So, do frogs eat 6" fish? Are the
2
tiny fingerlings that aggressive? How about the goldies as all 3 of
those
survived. There are lots of tall everygreens surrounding the property
and
thought there might be predators in those trees. But haven't seen any
eagles or herrons, etc. Perhaps they dropped by when they detected no
humans around for the week?

Your thoughts?
Thanks.
Jack


Not sure what would have happened to your fish, but 3" frogs cannot eat a
6" fish. I have had female fish die from the effects of spawning and
their
floating bodies removed from the pond by "something" (probably a raccoon).
Do you know what sort of frogs you have? Unless they're bullfrogs they
probably won't get so big you have to worry about them eating all your
fish.

Jacqui

"Jack" wrote in message
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Again, I really doubt it's the frogs too ..unless together they ganged up
on a fish. And I don't think it's a bullfrog as they have remained small
since first finding them last summer. Only difference is they have
multiplied to three from the single one I found last year. They don't
make
any sound at all, and their faces are more pointed than flat. Unlike a
bullfrog these are pretty delicate looking creatures. Except for the 2
small fry (I think they're imported trout from a friend's wild pond) there
appear to be no young goldies this season. But the remaining 3 have grown
twice their original 3". And they sure are bright! Just a shame we lost
the original 3 skubunkins as they were the same size and quite beautiful.
Sniff.

Shubunkins are my favourites. I know how you feel :-(

Jacqui



"axemanchris" wrote in message
. ..

"Jack" wrote in message
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Hi.
It's year 2 and just did a full water change on our little 300 gallon
pond.
Found a few surprises when the pool was emptied.
First off, about a week ago I was out of town for 6 days and when I
came
back I decided to do the water change as it was pretty mungy as I left.
At
the time of leaving there were 5 fish (from the original 6) that
survived
our mild winter: 3 goldies, 2 skubunkins(?) Now, after doing the
water
change I found only 3 goldies, 2 tiny fingerlings (look like imported
trout
from a friends wild pond), and 3 - 3" frogs!
My concern is, what happened to the 2 skubunkins while I was away? No
bodies found at the bottom. Neighbourhood cats? ..nah, the pond sides
are
too steep and no plants we disturbed. Not aware of any raccoons in the
area
either, and again nothing disturbed. So, do frogs eat 6" fish? Are
the
2
tiny fingerlings that aggressive? How about the goldies as all 3 of
those
survived. There are lots of tall everygreens surrounding the property
and
thought there might be predators in those trees. But haven't seen any
eagles or herrons, etc. Perhaps they dropped by when they detected no
humans around for the week?

Your thoughts?
Thanks.
Jack


Not sure what would have happened to your fish, but 3" frogs cannot eat
a
6" fish. I have had female fish die from the effects of spawning and
their
floating bodies removed from the pond by "something" (probably a
raccoon).
Do you know what sort of frogs you have? Unless they're bullfrogs they
probably won't get so big you have to worry about them eating all your
fish.

Jacqui

axemanchris wrote:

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Big SNIProooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

We are here about Ponds; not frogs, turtles nor pet baboons!!!

you want to discuss turtles and frogs?

go to the rec.herp news groups.

I am trying to clean this place up of off topic junk.

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
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Hey, what do you think "ponds" are about, beer-making?
Jack


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Big SNIProooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

We are here about Ponds; not frogs, turtles nor pet baboons!!!

you want to discuss turtles and frogs?

go to the rec.herp news groups.

I am trying to clean this place up of off topic junk.

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EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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Big SNIProooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

We are here about Ponds; not frogs, turtles nor pet baboons!!!

you want to discuss turtles and frogs?

go to the rec.herp news groups.

I am trying to clean this place up of off topic junk.

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

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Hey, what do you think "ponds" are about, beer-making?
Jack
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That was a FORGED HEADER. They think they'll drive me off by forging my
headers.
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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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axemanchris wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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Big SNIProooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

We are here about Ponds; not frogs, turtles nor pet baboons!!!

you want to discuss turtles and frogs?

go to the rec.herp news groups.

I am trying to clean this place up of off topic junk.

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

I came to this discussion group for information exchange not silly childish
crap.
Sorry. Don't want any further part of this.
Jack.




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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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Big SNIProooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

We are here about Ponds; not frogs, turtles nor pet baboons!!!

you want to discuss turtles and frogs?

go to the rec.herp news groups.

I am trying to clean this place up of off topic junk.

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

"Jack" wrote in message
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I came to this discussion group for information exchange not silly
childish
crap.
Sorry. Don't want any further part of this.
Jack.
==============
Neither does anyone else. You need to ignore trolls and use your killfile.
There *are* nice folks here who discuss ponds. :-)
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DOn't let the door slam you on your butt as you leave.

buh-bye

Jack wrote:
I came to this discussion group for information exchange not silly childish
crap.
Sorry. Don't want any further part of this.
Jack.

On 15 May 2005 10:13:49 -0700, "jabriol" wrote:

Good show carol Good show

bully, bully, bully I say.

time for tea.

what a shame.. yes.

Ponders are leaaving
Just like the JW's left, because of her harrasment..

Did you skip the meeting this morning?

Arjw was already going downhill by the end of 2002. The real decline
came with the appearance of your spiritual brother Lyin' Louie Perez,
with his floods of blank posts with the subject lines "PB" and
"Carol".

Carol's nym shifting didn't bother the posters of arjw.


Jack wrote:
I came to this discussion group for information exchange not silly
childish
crap.
Sorry. Don't want any further part of this.
Jack.




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Big SNIProooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

We are here about Ponds; not frogs, turtles nor pet baboons!!!

you want to discuss turtles and frogs?

go to the rec.herp news groups.

I am trying to clean this place up of off topic junk.

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o



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