Pond in planning stages

"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
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Hi All,

After lurking on this group for a few months and a lot of research
elsewhere
I am almost ready to finalize the plans for our pond.

We will most likely be using pond liner due to the area to be covered and
the fact that it won't be completely square or rectangular. The structure
will be decking panels. I will probably need to put a grid in short-term
because of my 4 year old daughter. We are planning to keep fish in here -
hubbie wants Koi but this is still up for debate.

The pond is going to be raised around 2-3 foot above ground level. I was
wondering if we need to dig below the surface at all as well? The problem
is
that our soakaway runs around six inches below where the end of the pond
is
going to be. Of course there is the possibility to dig deeper at the other
end of where the pond is planned for.

Any thoughts on this would be helpful - especially on the need to dig and
if
yes how deep?

Thanks
Gill

I gather a soakaway is a sprinkler system?

You should be able to combine all of your ideas to make this work.

1) Dig down a bit where you can.
2) Insulate the above ground part. You could use the dirt from the hole.
3) Cover (insulate) the top in winter. Since you're building this into a
deck, it should be fairly simple.
4) Your heater only needs to keep the water around 39°F. This will keep your
electric bills down. I only needed
a 300W heater to keep my 500 gallon pond heated in the wilds of Canada.
The heater only ran an hour or so a
day.

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
.. .
Hi All,

After lurking on this group for a few months and a lot of research
elsewhere
I am almost ready to finalize the plans for our pond.

We will most likely be using pond liner due to the area to be covered
and
the fact that it won't be completely square or rectangular. The
structure
will be decking panels. I will probably need to put a grid in short-term
because of my 4 year old daughter. We are planning to keep fish in
here -
hubbie wants Koi but this is still up for debate.

The pond is going to be raised around 2-3 foot above ground level. I was
wondering if we need to dig below the surface at all as well? The
problem
is
that our soakaway runs around six inches below where the end of the pond
is
going to be. Of course there is the possibility to dig deeper at the
other
end of where the pond is planned for.

Any thoughts on this would be helpful - especially on the need to dig
and
if
yes how deep?

Thanks
Gill

I gather a soakaway is a sprinkler system?

You should be able to combine all of your ideas to make this work.

1) Dig down a bit where you can.
2) Insulate the above ground part. You could use the dirt from the hole.
3) Cover (insulate) the top in winter. Since you're building this into a
deck, it should be fairly simple.
4) Your heater only needs to keep the water around 39°F. This will keep
your
electric bills down. I only needed
a 300W heater to keep my 500 gallon pond heated in the wilds of
Canada.
The heater only ran an hour or so a
day.



The soakaway is a very, very solid bit of clay piping that takes the water
via downpipes from the roof away from the foundations of the house....it
then trickles through a lot of rubble into the soil....very common in
England.

The pond will be above the deck level but actually covering it in winter
shouldn't be too much of an issue.....

I guess if we are going for Koi (and I'm not totally convinced as I have 6
tanks in the house to maintain) the deeper the better....

But really what you are saying is that if we do a decent depth and consider
a heater digging should not be too much of an issue?

Gill

"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
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"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
.. .
Hi All,

After lurking on this group for a few months and a lot of research
elsewhere
I am almost ready to finalize the plans for our pond.

We will most likely be using pond liner due to the area to be covered
and
the fact that it won't be completely square or rectangular. The
structure
will be decking panels. I will probably need to put a grid in
short-term
because of my 4 year old daughter. We are planning to keep fish in
here -
hubbie wants Koi but this is still up for debate.

The pond is going to be raised around 2-3 foot above ground level. I
was
wondering if we need to dig below the surface at all as well? The
problem
is
that our soakaway runs around six inches below where the end of the
pond
is
going to be. Of course there is the possibility to dig deeper at the
other
end of where the pond is planned for.

Any thoughts on this would be helpful - especially on the need to dig
and
if
yes how deep?

Thanks
Gill

I gather a soakaway is a sprinkler system?

You should be able to combine all of your ideas to make this work.

1) Dig down a bit where you can.
2) Insulate the above ground part. You could use the dirt from the hole.
3) Cover (insulate) the top in winter. Since you're building this into a
deck, it should be fairly simple.
4) Your heater only needs to keep the water around 39°F. This will keep
your
electric bills down. I only needed
a 300W heater to keep my 500 gallon pond heated in the wilds of
Canada.
The heater only ran an hour or so a
day.



The soakaway is a very, very solid bit of clay piping that takes the water
via downpipes from the roof away from the foundations of the house....it
then trickles through a lot of rubble into the soil....very common in
England.

The pond will be above the deck level but actually covering it in winter
shouldn't be too much of an issue.....

OK, I was thinking it would be flush with the deck. You should still
insulate the above ground portion. See RichToyBox's reply.

I guess if we are going for Koi (and I'm not totally convinced as I have 6
tanks in the house to maintain) the deeper the better....

I believe Koi need 1000 gallons + 100 gallons per fish. My puddle is much
too small for Koi.

But really what you are saying is that if we do a decent depth and
consider
a heater digging should not be too much of an issue?

Not quite. I would dig as much as possible, because if you dig deep enough
you won't need a heater. If you do need a heater, the more pond below
ground, the smaller heater you will require.

Gill

"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
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"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"Gill Passman" gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk wrote in message
.. .
Hi All,

After lurking on this group for a few months and a lot of research
elsewhere
I am almost ready to finalize the plans for our pond.

We will most likely be using pond liner due to the area to be covered
and
the fact that it won't be completely square or rectangular. The
structure
will be decking panels. I will probably need to put a grid in short-term
because of my 4 year old daughter. We are planning to keep fish in
here -
hubbie wants Koi but this is still up for debate.

The pond is going to be raised around 2-3 foot above ground level. I was
wondering if we need to dig below the surface at all as well? The
problem
is
that our soakaway runs around six inches below where the end of the pond
is
going to be. Of course there is the possibility to dig deeper at the
other
end of where the pond is planned for.

Any thoughts on this would be helpful - especially on the need to dig
and
if
yes how deep?

Thanks
Gill

I gather a soakaway is a sprinkler system?

You should be able to combine all of your ideas to make this work.

1) Dig down a bit where you can.
2) Insulate the above ground part. You could use the dirt from the hole.
3) Cover (insulate) the top in winter. Since you're building this into a
deck, it should be fairly simple.
4) Your heater only needs to keep the water around 39°F. This will keep
your
electric bills down. I only needed
a 300W heater to keep my 500 gallon pond heated in the wilds of
Canada.
The heater only ran an hour or so a
day.



The soakaway is a very, very solid bit of clay piping that takes the water
via downpipes from the roof away from the foundations of the house....it
then trickles through a lot of rubble into the soil....very common in
England.

So it is a kind of French drain (and English drain?). Ok, that makes sense.

The pond will be above the deck level but actually covering it in winter
shouldn't be too much of an issue.....

I guess if we are going for Koi (and I'm not totally convinced as I have 6
tanks in the house to maintain) the deeper the better....

But really what you are saying is that if we do a decent depth and consider
a heater digging should not be too much of an issue?

Gill

Exactly so.