A 6/3 WELCOME TO REC.PONDS

"Courageous" wrote in message
news


i nymshift every day so you cant killfile me haha.

Readers interested in killfilling this poster should be aware
that killfiles can kill on parts of the header other than the
From: field.

For example, read below. rec.ponders could set up filters that
kill any message crossposted to jehaovas-witns, and vice versa.
It's unlikely that messages crossposting these two groups are
of interest to either group.

Likewise, note the comments section. One can killfile based on
keywords in the Comments, like the word "anonymous". Or from the
organization dizum.com, or any other sweeping strategy.
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Perhaps they (myself included) would be helped by someone who can explain
this better. Some people don't even know how to find their killfile, no
less add filters to filter out the anon messages and messages from nym
shifters switching from Google to various NSPs etc. But then there are
different newsreaders out there to complicate matters.... you can see why a
troll well versed in "theocratic warfare strategy" feels they can kill any
NG with impunity.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

i nymshift every day so you cant killfile me haha.

Readers interested in killfilling this poster should be aware
that killfiles can kill on parts of the header other than the
From: field.

For example, read below. rec.ponders could set up filters that
kill any message crossposted to jehaovas-witns, and vice versa.
It's unlikely that messages crossposting these two groups are
of interest to either group.

Likewise, note the comments section. One can killfile based on
keywords in the Comments, like the word "anonymous". Or from the
organization dizum.com, or any other sweeping strategy.

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Date: 3 Jun 2005 05:21:40 -0000
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Subject: A 6/3 WELCOME TO REC.PONDS
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"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Yes, but we really can't know how to filter your newsreader. Trick number
one is knowing how to see /all/ the header fields. In a support group that
I was involved in once, we had to block all the "free" mail host sites for
a while (yahoo, etc) to get rid of a particular troll. It worked.

C//
======================
The woman's group I was on had one like we have now. There was no blocking
all his (or her, we never really knew) messages. Believe me, there are
ways the trolls and spammers get around killfiles. In disgust, one of the
people on that NG started a moderated group. Most of us moved there and the
troll ended up all but alone on the original group. I checked that group
just yesterday and I can see it's never really recovered.

This particular troll from ARJ-W is very good at what he does as he's been
at it for at least 15 years now, long before I got online. Most of his
history is on Google. He used to torment the people on the support groups
and on the atheism groups.

Forging headers is his specialty - he almost had my last ISP fooled back
there in 1997. He also uses remailers to hold conversations with himself
(sock-puppets). I think rec.ponds is just stuck with him until he tires of
the game and moves on......
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Message ,
by author Reel McKoi aka inspired me,
"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Yes, but we really can't know how to filter your newsreader. Trick
number one is knowing how to see /all/ the header fields. In a
support group that I was involved in once, we had to block all the
"free" mail host sites for a while (yahoo, etc) to get rid of a
particular troll. It worked.

C//
======================
The woman's group I was on had one like we have now. There was no
blocking all his (or her, we never really knew) messages. Believe
me, there are ways the trolls and spammers get around killfiles.
In disgust, one of the people on that NG started a moderated group.
Most of us moved there and the troll ended up all but alone on the
original group. I checked that group just yesterday and I can see
it's never really recovered.

This particular troll from ARJ-W is very good at what he does as
he's been at it for at least 15 years now, long before I got
online. Most of his history is on Google. He used to torment the
people on the support groups and on the atheism groups.

Forging headers is his specialty - he almost had my last ISP fooled
back there in 1997. He also uses remailers to hold conversations
with himself (sock-puppets). I think rec.ponds is just stuck with
him until he tires of the game and moves on......

With this tool anyone can filter on anything.
http://www.nfilter.org/index.html
--
d:Johan; Certifiable me
Seasons Wishes at http://www.aacit.net/aac.gif
Sig is being randomised, pls wait . . . .

"2Rowdy" wrote in message
et...
Message ,
by author Reel McKoi aka inspired me,
"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Yes, but we really can't know how to filter your newsreader. Trick
number one is knowing how to see /all/ the header fields. In a
support group that I was involved in once, we had to block all the
"free" mail host sites for a while (yahoo, etc) to get rid of a
particular troll. It worked.

C//
======================
The woman's group I was on had one like we have now. There was no
blocking all his (or her, we never really knew) messages. Believe
me, there are ways the trolls and spammers get around killfiles.
In disgust, one of the people on that NG started a moderated group.
Most of us moved there and the troll ended up all but alone on the
original group. I checked that group just yesterday and I can see
it's never really recovered.

This particular troll from ARJ-W is very good at what he does as
he's been at it for at least 15 years now, long before I got
online. Most of his history is on Google. He used to torment the
people on the support groups and on the atheism groups.

Forging headers is his specialty - he almost had my last ISP fooled
back there in 1997. He also uses remailers to hold conversations
with himself (sock-puppets). I think rec.ponds is just stuck with
him until he tires of the game and moves on......

With this tool anyone can filter on anything.
http://www.nfilter.org/index.html
==================================
It looks good... and a bit complicated.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Message ,
by author Reel McKoi aka inspired me,
"2Rowdy" wrote in message
et...

With this tool anyone can filter on anything.
http://www.nfilter.org/index.html
==================================
It looks good... and a bit complicated.

I am using Hamster. But that's harder to handle.
--
d:Johan; Certifiable me
Seasons Wishes at http://www.aacit.net/aac.gif
No, I am not demented,
just gray haired

Message ,
by author Reel McKoi aka inspired me,
"2Rowdy" wrote in message
et...

With this tool anyone can filter on anything.
http://www.nfilter.org/index.html
==================================
It looks good... and a bit complicated.

Volunteers can setup a set of rules to work with nfilter and publish
that file for everyone to use.
Some words keep coming back, x-posts to specific newsgroups, threads
can be killed with the references header and some servers can be
banned.
All in all it's a great tool to get a newsgroup back on it's feet.
Not feeding trolls is hard but it's the only way. nfilter can help
with that.
--
d:Johan; Certifiable me
Seasons Wishes at http://www.aacit.net/aac.gif
No, I am not demented,
just gray haired

Perhaps they (myself included) would be helped by someone who can explain
this better. Some people don't even know how to find their killfile, no
less add filters to filter out the anon messages and messages from nym
shifters switching from Google to various NSPs etc. But then there are
different newsreaders out there to complicate matters.... you can see why a
troll well versed in "theocratic warfare strategy" feels they can kill any
NG with impunity.

Yes, but we really can't know how to filter your newsreader. Trick number
one is knowing how to see /all/ the header fields. In a support group that
I was involved in once, we had to block all the "free" mail host sites for
a while (yahoo, etc) to get rid of a particular troll. It worked.

C//