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Old June 16th 05, 07:38 PM
Reel Mckoi
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"~Roy~" wrote in message
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Koizyme is the same as Lymnozyme...........and its not designed to
CURE anything.


# No one said it was. Is your reading comprehension as poor as your grammar
and spelling?

Its merely designed to reduce infectious bateria levels,
giving a fish a hopefull edge in over coming a problem....It will not
cure or wipe out an infection by any means .......


# It cured my koi. :-) No more ulcers........

Pristine good
quality water in a QT will do the same thing, give your fish an edge
on potential problems.............


# WOW! Who would have guessed????? :-D
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Old June 17th 05, 02:02 AM
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"~ janj JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:26:12 -0400, "*muffin*" wrote:


so , you are saying they did get better with just the lymnozyme use?


I'll agree with that, assuming the ulcers aren't too deep. What color are
they? If white, that is good healing, equal to a healthy scab on us.

If the ulcers are bad, red, and getting worst, remove and put an end to

the
fish as their stress becomes a stress to the rest of the fish. ~ jan



the fish are very active, swimming, eating. the 'wound' on the lemon colored
one, looks reddish/black. the wound on the gold one. looks about the same as
the rest of the fish, only it is 'puffy' with scales missing.

(oh, I'll try to get a picture of them)

~~~~ waves to Jan!


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Old June 17th 05, 02:05 AM
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"*muffin*" wrote in message
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I guess I'll just make sure the lymnozyme is kept up..


## Yes, and keep it in the fridge! It works, but not if you forget to

use
it. :-)
## YES!!!! But I don't wait for spawning or injuries. I add it as

soon as
they become active in the spring.


yes I have been using the stuff for a few years, but right before I wanted
to put it in this year I found my bottle was frozen.... so had to order a
new one. I was concerned that the box it arrived in, everything was 'warm'
( could have sworn the last order I got had an ice bag in it!)

I do keep it in the fridge, I just hope the 'warmth' of the delivery didn't
screw it up!


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Old June 17th 05, 02:10 AM
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Pristine good
quality water in a QT will do the same thing, give your fish an edge
on potential problems.............



oh I agree......

but, as I mentioned, due to problems with the last trip in a tank, I am not
doing this with these fish (even if I could catch them)

I did have *another* indoor tank , about a year ago, that no matter WHAT I
did I could not get the balance correct in the tank, there was always
presence of ammonia in it, even with trying to do the balance thing with a
small fish,, water changes etc. it was a nightmare, I tried asking for
advice on the fish groups, but nothing seemed to help. I guess the tank is
cursed.


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Old June 17th 05, 02:42 AM
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"*muffin*" wrote in message
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yes I have been using the stuff for a few years, but right before I wanted
to put it in this year I found my bottle was frozen.... so had to order a
new one. I was concerned that the box it arrived in, everything was 'warm'
( could have sworn the last order I got had an ice bag in it!)


$$ Prime example of why I don't buy some things mail order. I have an
Aquarium store about 20 miles from here that sells Lymnozyme and so I drive
there for it. I take my small cooler and an ice-pack with me. Needless to
say I come straight home from the store and the bottle is still chilled.
:-)

I do keep it in the fridge, I just hope the 'warmth' of the delivery

didn't
screw it up!


$$ I suppose that would depend on how long it was "warmed up" and just how
warm it go........
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EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
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Old June 17th 05, 03:26 AM
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"*muffin*" wrote in message
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I did have *another* indoor tank , about a year ago, that no matter WHAT I
did I could not get the balance correct in the tank, there was always
presence of ammonia in it, even with trying to do the balance thing with a
small fish,, water changes etc. it was a nightmare, I tried asking for
advice on the fish groups, but nothing seemed to help. I guess the tank is
cursed.

=====================
The few times I've run into that problem I gave up, cleaned the tank out,
washed the gravel, tosses the filter material way and started over again.
The second time around they always cycled... but then I don't mess much with
the PH, etc. In NYC we had slightly acid water (6.8) so I stuck with fish
that thrived in acid water or used dolomite gravel. Here in TN it's
slightly alkaline so I stick with fish that prefer that type of water. Less
stress for the fish and myself. Outdoors it's the koi, rosy reds and
goldfish. Indoors it's platys right now. Goldfish do so much better
outdoors I don't keep them indoors anymore.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

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Old June 17th 05, 06:48 AM
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yes I have been using the stuff for a few years, but right before I wanted
to put it in this year I found my bottle was frozen.... so had to order a
new one. I was concerned that the box it arrived in, everything was 'warm'
( could have sworn the last order I got had an ice bag in it!)

I do keep it in the fridge, I just hope the 'warmth' of the delivery didn't
screw it up!

"Supposedly" (so told by a dealer) the expiration date on the bottle is if
kept at room temp. It will last twice as long in the frig. Not sure what
too warm would do to it. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
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Old June 17th 05, 06:51 AM
~ janj JJsPond.us
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I did have *another* indoor tank , about a year ago, that no matter WHAT I
did I could not get the balance correct in the tank, there was always
presence of ammonia in it, even with trying to do the balance thing with a
small fish,, water changes etc. it was a nightmare, I tried asking for
advice on the fish groups, but nothing seemed to help. I guess the tank is
cursed.

Did you use what I call the "Amquel Answer"? I'd been taught to balance a
tank and not stress fish one had to do water changes. Then someone informed
me to use Amquel (or similar product) to de-tox the ammonia and salt to
detox the nitrites and treat the tank/aquarium as I normally would with 10%
change/week. Worked like a charmed for me. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
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Old June 17th 05, 07:00 AM
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the stuff I used was clor-amx (spelling) it was the powdered stuff..
ammonia dissapeared but was back in a few days later. tank was a 55 gal,
with only a couple small fish in it.



"~ janj JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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I did have *another* indoor tank , about a year ago, that no matter WHAT

I
did I could not get the balance correct in the tank, there was always
presence of ammonia in it, even with trying to do the balance thing with

a
small fish,, water changes etc. it was a nightmare, I tried asking for
advice on the fish groups, but nothing seemed to help. I guess the tank

is
cursed.

Did you use what I call the "Amquel Answer"? I'd been taught to balance a
tank and not stress fish one had to do water changes. Then someone

informed
me to use Amquel (or similar product) to de-tox the ammonia and salt to
detox the nitrites and treat the tank/aquarium as I normally would with

10%
change/week. Worked like a charmed for me. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~



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Old June 17th 05, 08:09 AM
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:00:57 -0400, "*muffin*" wrote:

the stuff I used was clor-amx (spelling) it was the powdered stuff..
ammonia dissapeared but was back in a few days later. tank was a 55 gal,
with only a couple small fish in it.


Chlor-Amx same thing as Amquell, you have to keep using it till the cycle
is complete. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
 




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