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"Cyril The Squirrel" wrote in message
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It was coming out of the water in a
similar manner to what you see Dolphins doing when they swim next to a
boat. I haven't seen the fish come out of the water at all for probably
4 to 5 days so it could be getting back to normal.
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Very interesting. Please keep us updated on what happens with this fish.
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In article ,
lid says...
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Very interesting. Please keep us updated on what happens with this fish.

I will do that, I'm off work tomorrow so should have more time to see
what is happening over a longer period, weather permitting.

I might get the fish out of the pond and do a scrape and check it under
a scope although I don't really want to stress the fish too much. It's
one of those where you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I did this a couple of years ago when I had a sick fish and couldn't
stop scratching my skin when looking at the slide and seeing everything
crawling about, it's not for the faint hearted, I'm scratching now just
thinking about it.

Is it possible that the fish has had mouth rot? I've never had a fish
with this problem so not sure how a recovering fish would look.

Has anybody had a fish that has recovered from mouth rot and how did it
look and act while recovering?

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Wow - that's a new one to me
Gale :~)
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It's new to me, my fish are normally perfectly healthy, I've had two
fish that have had one problem each in the last four years. I suppose
I'm lucky in that way, I'd rather not become an expert on fish
problems/diseases, at least not through practical experience.

"Cyril The Squirrel" wrote in message
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In article ,
lid says...
snip
Very interesting. Please keep us updated on what happens with this
fish.

I will do that, I'm off work tomorrow so should have more time to see
what is happening over a longer period, weather permitting.

I might get the fish out of the pond and do a scrape and check it under
a scope although I don't really want to stress the fish too much. It's
one of those where you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

$$ I know what you mean. I hate to stress them unless it's absolutely
necessary in this heat. I checked the water temp' a few hours ago and it
was 88 F. :-( I had to move some fry because two small frogs managed to
squeeze into their pool. So far they look ok. I added another air-stone.

I did this a couple of years ago when I had a sick fish and couldn't
stop scratching my skin when looking at the slide and seeing everything
crawling about, it's not for the faint hearted, I'm scratching now just
thinking about it.

$$ LOL!!!! :-D You see amazing things under the 'scope.

Is it possible that the fish has had mouth rot? I've never had a fish
with this problem so not sure how a recovering fish would look.

$$ I don't know. I do recall a platy or swordtail some years ago with
mouth rot (a bacterial infection) but it died. Why don't you wait and see
what happens..... You said the others looked ok.

Has anybody had a fish that has recovered from mouth rot and how did it
look and act while recovering?
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How do you know what stresses a fish more, the problem it has and
letting it go so no further stresses are implied and hope for the best
or shotgun treat and cross your fingers or the process of netting it,
scoping it and getting the right treatment for it Even the most
proficient and dedicated koi keepers will net the mopst sick or
stressed out fish and see that it is scoped and gets the proper
treatment.....Not saying its not stressfull, but if that fish died
from the added stress of netting and scoping it was destined to die
anyhow........Same basic thing when you use PP in a pond for parasites
or other problems. If a fish dies and a proper dose and steps were
taken with PP that fish wa going to die no matter what you may have
done.........Go net the fish and scope it, your already ahead of the
game if you know how to scope and scrape.......and both you and the
fish will gain.

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In article ,
says...

How do you know what stresses a fish more, the problem it has and
letting it go so no further stresses are implied and hope for the best
or shotgun treat and cross your fingers or the process of netting it,
scoping it and getting the right treatment for it Even the most
proficient and dedicated koi keepers will net the mopst sick or
stressed out fish and see that it is scoped and gets the proper
treatment.....Not saying its not stressfull, but if that fish died
from the added stress of netting and scoping it was destined to die
anyhow........Same basic thing when you use PP in a pond for parasites
or other problems. If a fish dies and a proper dose and steps were
taken with PP that fish wa going to die no matter what you may have
done.........Go net the fish and scope it, your already ahead of the
game if you know how to scope and scrape.......and both you and the
fish will gain.


I wouldn't argue with that.

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I have noticed a problem with a Goldfish for a while now. I noticed
that he had black marks on his gill covers and down both sides, just in
certain areas, not all over. This was noticed over a year ago when my
fish returned from my brothers pond, I'd moved house and had to wait to
build my pond. These marks did not get any worse and possibly reduced
slightly until 2 to 3 weeks ago.

The fish started coming to the surface and going straight back down,
bubbles would then come to the surface.
snip

I said I would update when anything changed so here goes:

I've done a scrape and checked it and didn't find too much wrong which I
found hard to beleive.

I've taken some photo's of the fish and uploaded them to
http://www.sendmefile.com/0012213
the file is 2.51mb in size and contains 8 photographs of the fish
showing it's scale colouration, lip colouration and now swelling.

I still have no idea what the problem is but would appreciate any
advice.

The file is a .rar file.

On dial up and not about to fooll with rar, but each and evey time any
of my comets got black on them it was form water paramters being out.
I bought some nice red and white feeders and a lot of them had some
unique black markings, one in particular had its dorsal fine striped
with every other spine and area between red, then white then
black,,,,and some looked like checker boards.........The black all
went away from all those fish within 3 weeks once I got them in good
water. I had been overly busy later on, and my water wa fair but not
good, and low and behold their black color was once again coming back
on them.......got my water to proper parameter and black once again
went away......The last batch of feeders I bought about 10 days ago
also had lolts of them with black marks, which most have dissapeared
now since they are being kept in decent conditions...

Then again some say its common coloration in some GF.....

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 17:19:12 GMT, Cyril The Squirrel
wrote:

===In article ,
says...
=== I have noticed a problem with a Goldfish for a while now. I noticed
=== that he had black marks on his gill covers and down both sides, just in
=== certain areas, not all over. This was noticed over a year ago when my
=== fish returned from my brothers pond, I'd moved house and had to wait to
=== build my pond. These marks did not get any worse and possibly reduced
=== slightly until 2 to 3 weeks ago.
===
=== The fish started coming to the surface and going straight back down,
=== bubbles would then come to the surface.
=== snip
===
===I said I would update when anything changed so here goes:
===
===I've done a scrape and checked it and didn't find too much wrong which I
===found hard to beleive.
===
===I've taken some photo's of the fish and uploaded them to
===http://www.sendmefile.com/0012213
===the file is 2.51mb in size and contains 8 photographs of the fish
===showing it's scale colouration, lip colouration and now swelling.
===
===I still have no idea what the problem is but would appreciate any
===advice.
===
===The file is a .rar file.


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Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
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In article ,
says...
On dial up and not about to fooll with rar, but each and evey time any
of my comets got black on them it was form water paramters being out.
I bought some nice red and white feeders and a lot of them had some
unique black markings, one in particular had its dorsal fine striped
with every other spine and area between red, then white then
black,,,,and some looked like checker boards.........The black all
went away from all those fish within 3 weeks once I got them in good
water. I had been overly busy later on, and my water wa fair but not
good, and low and behold their black color was once again coming back
on them.......got my water to proper parameter and black once again
went away......The last batch of feeders I bought about 10 days ago
also had lolts of them with black marks, which most have dissapeared
now since they are being kept in decent conditions...

Then again some say its common coloration in some GF.....
snip

I know some people are a bit worried about compressed files and it's
sensible, that's why I mentioned the file type. Size is also important
for people with really slow dial up's.

I've uploaded the photo's but they are between 317kb and 334kb.

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576663&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576668&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576670&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576671&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576676&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576678&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576680&type=viewpic

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576682&type=viewpic

"Cyril The Squirrel" wrote in message
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I've uploaded the photo's but they are between 317kb and 334kb.

http://www.imagehosting.us/?id=576663&type=viewpic

This is what I get:

Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/var/tmp/mysql.sock' (111) in
/home/imagehos/public_html/bapi/db/mysql_impl.php on line 21

Fatal error: 10001
Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/tmp/mysql.sock'
(111)
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