Has the Catholic church lost control

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:32:46 GMT, "Mike Painter"
wrote:


ie, artificial.
See what I mean? I knew Earl would do this so I specifically pointed
out the "AND" part.
You're dreaming about your greatness, mikey. Apparently you can't
relate to the non-procreative periods in a woman's cycle as being
valid and unitive in purpose.

It's the church that makes these statements, not me.

The reference is to your fallible interpretation.

The sexual act is unitive even when it isn't procreative. God made
it that way. Artificial contraception reduces the unitive to pleasure
for the satisfaction of other than procreative and/or unitive.

Irrelevant to what the RCC says.

You mean what you're dreaming it says.

You can bs your little atheist buddies, mikey, but I'm too smart for
you.
I guess Earl is so used to getting just an egg when he orders "ham
and eggs" that he never will understand
Gotcha.
Sure Earl, enjoy your egg.

I do, I do.


duke
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:20:35 -0700, (•€R.L.Measures) wrote:

Your catechism. " ... Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when
sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive
purposes."

But sexual pleasure is unitive, even during periods of infertility.
It does not say OR it say "procreative and unitive purposes"
ie, artificial.

See what I mean? I knew Earl would do this so I specifically pointed out the
"AND" part.

You're dreaming about your greatness, mikey. Apparently you can't relate to
the non-procreative periods in a woman's cycle as being valid and unitive in
purpose.

• If a woman has two functioning ovaries and she is not pregnant, there
is no such thing as her non-orocreative period -- especially if she has an
orgasm during coitus. [ref: Dr. Jane Comfort "The Facts of Love".]

Thanks, but I'll stick with God's point. I'm not a big fan of dual
"orocreative" periods - commas, ok, but periods - no.

Even Saint Augustine realized that a woman can get pregnant during her
menstrual period:

That must thereby mean she is in her procreative period. Good grief but you
confuse yourself.

- "Defective children will result if conceived during menstruation. Women
should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should be
segregated because they are the cause of unholy erections in holy men."
- Saint Augustine (354-430)

Leave it to "really lost' to hide from the subject and head off on a tangent.

duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:32:46 GMT, "Mike Painter"
wrote:


ie, artificial.
See what I mean? I knew Earl would do this so I specifically
pointed out the "AND" part.
You're dreaming about your greatness, mikey. Apparently you can't
relate to the non-procreative periods in a woman's cycle as being
valid and unitive in purpose.

It's the church that makes these statements, not me.

The reference is to your fallible interpretation.
I quoted and made no interpretation.

The sexual act is unitive even when it isn't procreative. God made
it that way. Artificial contraception reduces the unitive to
pleasure for the satisfaction of other than procreative and/or
unitive.

Irrelevant to what the RCC says.

You mean what you're dreaming it says.

Then show direct quotes from your catechism that contradicts what I quoted
from your catechism.



You can bs your little atheist buddies, mikey, but I'm too smart for
you.
I guess Earl is so used to getting just an egg when he orders "ham
and eggs" that he never will understand
Gotcha.
Sure Earl, enjoy your egg.

I do, I do.

In article , duke
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:20:35 -0700, (•€R.L.Measures) wrote:

Your catechism. " ... Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when
sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive
purposes."

But sexual pleasure is unitive, even during periods of infertility.
It does not say OR it say "procreative and unitive purposes"
ie, artificial.

See what I mean? I knew Earl would do this so I specifically pointed
out the
"AND" part.

You're dreaming about your greatness, mikey. Apparently you can't
relate to
the non-procreative periods in a woman's cycle as being valid and unitive in
purpose.

• If a woman has two functioning ovaries and she is not pregnant, there
is no such thing as her non-orocreative period -- especially if she has an
orgasm during coitus. [ref: Dr. Jane Comfort "The Facts of Love".]

Thanks, but I'll stick with God's point. I'm not a big fan of dual
"orocreative" periods - commas, ok, but periods - no.

• It matters not what we are a fan of. As long as a woman has two
functioning ovaries, there is no "safe period" since a good orgasm can
cause the most rested ovary to release a egg on any day, period.

Even Saint Augustine realized that a woman can get pregnant during her
menstrual period:

That must thereby mean she is in her procreative period. Good grief but you
confuse yourself.

• Will a two-cylinder engine continue to run when one spark plug is not
firing and the other one is?

- "Defective children will result if conceived during menstruation. Women
should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should be
segregated because they are the cause of unholy erections in holy men."
- Saint Augustine (354-430)

Leave it to "really lost' to hide from the subject and head off on a tangent.

• Unholy erections are hardly a tangent.

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