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Old August 31st 05, 12:55 AM
Reel Mckoi
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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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$$ I saw on the News that some couldn't get out. They had no choice. I
suppose their neighbors just took off and left them to fend for
themselves. How sad.......


I have a hard time believing that. it's not like hurricanes sneak up on
you in 2 minutes.. you know a day at least in advance and they issues an
evacuation there long before the hurricane hit.


$$ But if you're poor and have no car how can you leave? Maybe they didn't
have family. Picture how crowded any bus depot would be!

I lived in Orlando for 13 years, and many people just do NOT believe
anything bad can happen to them, no matter what they are told.


$$ You will always find such foolish people. I agree.

Heck, I remember a police car stopping by everyone's trailer in a trailer
park, and telling them they had a mandatory evacuation of the area, and
they told the police fine, and as soon as they left, said there was no way
in hell they were leaving.


$$ Yes, I remember people would not leave Amagansett L.I. when a storm was
headed that way in 1954 or 55. Many lived to regret it. My family was
lucky, the water didn't come as far as our summer bungalow. Other people
ran for their lives as their homes were ripped off their foundations and
tumbled like doll houses in the surge. I thought for sure we were all going
to die.

IMHO it's Darwinism at it's best. The smart survive, and the stupid
perish.


$$ To some extent this is true but I don't believe the Police had enough
manpower to evacuate all those without cars, family, close friends or money
to pay someone to evacuate them. I myself would have been out of there if I
had to WALK! Now the looters are looting the stores.... and probably any
homes still standing.

Just like the people who ran *gas generators* in their homes, and had
fires.. how stupid do you have to be to run a gasoline generator IN YOUR
HOUSE??

My pond fish are smarter then that!


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Old August 31st 05, 08:15 AM
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"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
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$$ To some extent this is true but I don't believe the Police had enough
manpower to evacuate all those without cars, family, close friends or
money to pay someone to evacuate them. I myself would have been out of
there if I had to WALK! Now the looters are looting the stores.... and
probably any homes still standing.


Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to assist
their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S


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Old August 31st 05, 08:29 AM
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Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S


You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.

Regards,
Herb

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Old August 31st 05, 09:18 AM
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"Herb" wrote in message
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Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S


You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.

Regards,
Herb


That is not a solution. What they need to do is evacuate everyone that is
not an emergency worker out of the disaster area. I think that is what
they are currently working to do.


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Old August 31st 05, 04:57 PM
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" George" wrote in message
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"Herb" wrote in message
news:6%cRe.27090$Uz2.22252@trnddc02...
Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S


You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.

Regards,
Herb


That is not a solution. What they need to do is evacuate everyone that is
not an emergency worker out of the disaster area. I think that is what
they are currently working to do.

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That wouldn't be possible as how would they find them all to evacuate them?
Many don't want to leave. Where would they take them? The TV claims the
shelters are already overcrowded. Sometimes drastic actions are the only
thing people understand.
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Old August 31st 05, 05:25 PM
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" George" wrote in message
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What they need to do is evacuate everyone that is not an emergency worker
out of the disaster area. I think that is what they are currently working
to do.


Yep, I heard the same thing.. they are going to tell people with proper
identification they can come in and get personal effects, but then must
leave the area until about a month now.

But they are working now on getting everyone out, so they can stop the
waters raising, and get the situation under some sort of control.

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Old August 31st 05, 04:54 PM
Reel Mckoi
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"Herb" wrote in message
news:6%cRe.27090$Uz2.22252@trnddc02...
Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S


You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters,


$$ I agree with this - UNLESS they were children or starving people taking
food. No one is starving there. These looters were carrying off clothes,
beer and electronic equipment. Items hardly needed for survival. It's
amazing how a disaster can bring out the worst in some people and the best
in others.

that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.

Regards,
Herb


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Old August 31st 05, 07:01 PM
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:29:06 GMT, "Herb"
wrote:

=== Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
=== assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.


A ot of the affercted states national guard troops are deployed and on
TDY to opther areas of assignment since Iraqi Invasion....a lot are
transferred to regular active duty military bases to replace the
regulars stationed there so they can deploy and a majority of those at
home station are not qualified to provide much of any kind of
assistence in regards to security, rescue etc..handing out MRE's
perhaps but thats it........And then a good portion of the ones still
at home station are just as badly affected and victims of Katrina as
the next, and are and may have evacuated, so the nationa guard
strength is not what its chalked up to be by any means. The NG members
in this area are spread out thin all over the world right now, and
many of them are in Iraq etc while their home was in Mobile
country,....The guard and reserves are tasked more since 9/11 than
most people think, and thats being TDY to another country already.


===
===You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
===publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
===to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
===conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
===the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
===Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
===last long.
===

Does not seem ike it stopped the animals in NO does it.The only thing
those animals will under stand is when they start pileing up looters
bodies in the public square.......There wa many many more that could
easily have evacuated NO..........just like the idiots that rode it
out in a beach front motel in Biloxi who finshed their days of
contributing to their gene pool........There really is no excuse for
those idiots being trapped and needing air rescue in NO.......They
could eaily have been put up at the SUper Dome, inconvieinient
perhaps, but safe, and all together in stead of trapped in an attic or
on a roof crying to be rescued.....They had close to 48 hours, to get
to the super dome or high ground and other shelters in NO, but noo
they elected to stay and hopefully take up on the looting career, most
are well versed in.....I say feed em lead and make a lasting image of
the low lifes. Unitl they take extremely firm action with those
animals they will always do what they can to be a parasite on the
governments handout programs.........

===Regards,
===Herb



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Old August 31st 05, 07:10 PM
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"Herb" wrote in message
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Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.

-S


You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
last long.



The Koreans did exactly that, permission or not, in the Rodney King riots,
seems word got out really quickly.

-S


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Old August 31st 05, 07:33 PM
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:10:00 GMT, "Snooze" wrote:

===
==="Herb" wrote in message
===news:6%cRe.27090$Uz2.22252@trnddc02...
=== Good thing we have the national guard available to for deployment to
=== assist their state in times of disaster and to prevent looting.
===
=== -S
===
=== You're absolutely right Snooze, since the governor of each state has
=== publicly stated that they have plenty of National Guardsmen available
=== to meet any need they have. If you really had the courage of your
=== conviction, you'd recommend the governor issue shoot to kill orders for
=== the looters, that way it wouldn't take that many Guardsmen or Police.
=== Once the word was out that looting will cost your life, it wouldn't
=== last long.
===
===
===The Koreans did exactly that, permission or not, in the Rodney King riots,
===seems word got out really quickly.
===
===-S
===

Word does not have to get out, its instinct and hard wired in these
people, did I say people, I meant to say animals.........They are
always looking for an opening to take advantage of ANY situation.The
FOX coverage of them walking around nonchalantly right after Katrina
passed through, The French Quarter pretty well dry and intact, and
isolated from the rest of NO, they new darn well they could pretty
well do what they wanted and get away with it......so they went for
it.......Even with officers there with shotguns pointed at them did
little to deter them, as they knew they were not gonna get shot, and
they more than likely were not gonna get arrested and hauled in tot
jail since they could not transport those arrested and try and stem
further looting while they were gone.......They shjould shoot em all
on sight if they have so much as a gal of milk or a lopad of bread,
since there is not once busiiness open in that city and selling food
and other merchandise......see a brand new pair of NIKEs on them odds
they ripped em off at the Footlooker that they so diligenlty tore
apart and plundered.......scumballs are what they are and they have no
place in socieity.

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