Dogs, mirrors, self awareness...

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 04:24:40 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:

Logic316 wrote:

dh@. wrote:

Question: Has anyone ever managed to get a dog
to understand that it can see its reflection in a mirror,
and if so, did it appear to experience a great revelation
about its own existence at the instant it learned to do so?


At this point, at the risk of getting a bit personal, I have to conclude
that we have a B.S. artist and a troll on our hands who debates more
like a backwoods evangelist than a scientist, appealing to rhetoric and
semantics rather than hard data. DH has pretty much ignored my numerous
posts and the reference URLs which I have provided, and is obstinately
arguing in circles repeating the same questions which I've already
answered.

"DH" is David Harrison. He lives in or near Atlanta,
GA (not in dispute). He is uneducated. He's 46 years
old, maybe 47 by now, and does flunky work. He's a
bible-thumping Southern redneck.

I've read and have little problem with the Koran and the Book of Mormon
as well as the Bible. I've read the Satanic Bible too, and have my opinions
about all of it, like with the animals, and you would disagree with all of it,
like with the animals. But even if you tried to discuss it you couldn't even
get to the first step imo, like with the animals. Your limitations don't make me
feel stupid Goo, but they sure make me wonder how stupid you really are.

dh@. wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 04:24:40 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


Logic316 wrote:


dh@. wrote:


Question: Has anyone ever managed to get a dog
to understand that it can see its reflection in a mirror,
and if so, did it appear to experience a great revelation
about its own existence at the instant it learned to do so?


At this point, at the risk of getting a bit personal, I have to conclude
that we have a B.S. artist and a troll on our hands who debates more
like a backwoods evangelist than a scientist, appealing to rhetoric and
semantics rather than hard data. DH has pretty much ignored my numerous
posts and the reference URLs which I have provided, and is obstinately
arguing in circles repeating the same questions which I've already
answered.

"DH" is David Harrison. He lives in or near Atlanta,
GA (not in dispute). He is uneducated. He's 46 years
old, maybe 47 by now, and does flunky work. He's a
bible-thumping Southern redneck.


I've read and have little problem with the Koran and the Book of Mormon
as well as the Bible.

That's a lie, ****wit. You could not possibly read the
Koran.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:04:17 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:

dh@. wrote:

I've read and have little problem with the Koran and the Book of Mormon
as well as the Bible.

That's a lie, ****wit. You could not possibly read the
Koran.

LOL. What makes you "think" that Goo?

****wit David Harrison lied:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:04:17 GMT, Rudy Canoza wrote:


dh@. wrote:


I've read and have little problem with the Koran and the Book of Mormon
as well as the Bible.

That's a lie, ****wit. You could not possibly read the
Koran.


LOL.

You have not read the Koran. Stop lying.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 Goo wrote:

dh laughed at Goober:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 Goo wrote:


dh@. wrote:


I've read and have little problem with the Koran and the Book of Mormon
as well as the Bible.

That's a lie, ****wit. You could not possibly read the
Koran.


LOL.

You have not read the Koran.

That's a lie Goo. I took notes too. Those are just things that you
can't conceive of. There are lots of them. I have't been pointing out
that you're shallow simply as an insult. In fact none of the things I
say about you are simple insults. They are all the truth. What you
"ARAs" hate about me is that I point out truths that you don't want
to see pointed out. We know that Gonad.

Back to the Koran: Yes, you lied again, of course. Another thing
we know from experience is that if you could be made to stick to
the truth, you would have little if anything to post. Here are some
things I found significant in the Koran, though of course they will
be meaningless to you:

Translation: Pickthall

[al-Baqarah 2:62] Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed
unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians,
and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and
doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no
fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

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[al-`Ankabut 29:46]
And argue not with the People of the Scripture
unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do
wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him
we surrender.

÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷

[al-Ma'idah 5:46] And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in
their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in
the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance
and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the
Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off
(evil).

[al-Ma'idah 5:47] Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which
Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah
hath revealed: such are evil-livers.

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[Maryam 19:27] Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying
him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing.

[Maryam 19:28] O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked
man nor was thy mother a harlot.

[Maryam 19:29] Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we
talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy ?

[Maryam 19:30] He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath
given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,

[Maryam 19:31] And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may
be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I
remain alive,

[Maryam 19:32] And (hath made me) dutiful toward her who bore
me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest.

[Maryam 19:33] Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I
die, and the day I shall be raised alive!

[Maryam 19:34] Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement
of the truth concerning which they doubt.