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Old September 9th 05, 01:30 AM
Pszemol
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"TekCat" wrote in message ...
Greetings seasoned reefers, I just signed myself up for reef adventures by
purchasing 55G tank and have been reading megabytes of info on
reefcentral.com. I suppose my first purchase (after the tank) in this
endless adventure will be RO/DI unit. Yes, I know that I'll be using it
alot, and should get the best there is, but I am, like most of us, is short
on money... So, the question is what you gurus would recommend to get and
where, so it will accommodate 55gallon tank needs, but wont force me into
bankruptcy?


I do not understand how one could be forced into bankruptcy paying
about $100 for a complete 6-stage filter (including deionizer "DI" stage).

Check for that example eBay.com, Item# 4398719599 and others.
You could spend a little more and get the system with the pressurized
tank for drinking water storage under the kitchen sink...
This way you would have pure water for your reef and your drinking.

p.s.
Not affiliated with the seller - just run a quick search and his auction turned up.
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Old September 9th 05, 02:52 AM
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"Pszemol" wrote in message
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I do not understand how one could be forced into bankruptcy paying
about $100 for a complete 6-stage filter (including deionizer "DI"
stage).



Stop by www.melevsreef.com

We are "somewhat" affiliated with Marc, as he's a regular here, and
very knowledgable. I bought my init from him, and have been very
happy with it.

bv


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Old September 9th 05, 04:11 AM
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"Billy" wrote in message ...
"Pszemol" wrote in message
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I do not understand how one could be forced into bankruptcy paying
about $100 for a complete 6-stage filter (including deionizer "DI"
stage).


Stop by www.melevsreef.com

We are "somewhat" affiliated with Marc, as he's a regular here, and
very knowledgable. I bought my init from him, and have been very
happy with it.


His unit costs $174 (when you add the shipping cost).
OP was asking for an option not forcing him into bankruptcy.

You do the math.
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Old September 9th 05, 05:31 AM
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"Pszemol" wrote in message
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You do the math.


Don't have to get snippy, friend. Just offering my suggestion. I've
found, that by and large, a cheap anything generally turns out to be
worth what you paid for it.

b


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Old September 9th 05, 06:05 AM
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"Billy" wrote in message ...
"Pszemol" wrote in message
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You do the math.


Don't have to get snippy, friend.


Not ment to be snippy, my friend.
I just understand he asked a serious question here.
Do you seriously suggest this other filter is better ?
Is it really worth its much bigger price in your opinion ?

Just offering my suggestion. I've found, that by and large, a cheap
anything generally turns out to be worth what you paid for it.


Well, paying 74% more for the same product does not need to be
a smart idea... Assuming that a product is better just based on the price
comparison is silly. I would be happy to hear from Marc what makes
his filter better than any other filters available on eBay for ~$100.
I would really like to know what in his filter is worth this extra $74...
For now, I have read his filter descriprion and I cannot find anything
special there which is worth this extra $74. How about you ?

BTW - Who is the manufacturer of the membrane in Marcs filter ?
Have you found this info on his website? I have hard time to do so...
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Old September 9th 05, 03:54 PM
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Well consider the Kent Marine 60gpd unit runs around $249 without shipping.
Marc's units are 100gpd so at $149 + I think it's a good deal. Starting a
reef tank is a huge expense and I think we've all knocked on the door of the
poor house when getting started.

A guy at work offered me a great deal on a 72 bow front with stand, light,
glass top for under $200. I thought I was getting a great deal (which I
was). $2500.00 later I have an awesome reef tank. Oh well, hobbies are
expensive. An RO/DI unit is a must. It's not like freshwater aquariums where
you can drop tap water in no problem.

My next RO/DI unit will come from Marc.


"Pszemol" wrote in message
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"Billy" wrote in message
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"Pszemol" wrote in message
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You do the math.


Don't have to get snippy, friend.


Not ment to be snippy, my friend.
I just understand he asked a serious question here.
Do you seriously suggest this other filter is better ?
Is it really worth its much bigger price in your opinion ?

Just offering my suggestion. I've found, that by and large, a cheap
anything generally turns out to be worth what you paid for it.


Well, paying 74% more for the same product does not need to be
a smart idea... Assuming that a product is better just based on the price
comparison is silly. I would be happy to hear from Marc what makes
his filter better than any other filters available on eBay for ~$100.
I would really like to know what in his filter is worth this extra $74...
For now, I have read his filter descriprion and I cannot find anything
special there which is worth this extra $74. How about you ?

BTW - Who is the manufacturer of the membrane in Marcs filter ?
Have you found this info on his website? I have hard time to do so...



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Old September 9th 05, 04:57 PM
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"Ray Martini" wrote in message ...
Well consider the Kent Marine 60gpd unit runs around $249 without shipping.


What point are you trying to make here ?
Why do you ask me to compare one rip-off to a bigger rip-off ?

Are you trying to convince me that Marcs filter is not the most expensive one?
Sure, maybe it is not... If you buy a RO unit from a door-to-door salesman you
would pay about $500. But what does it mean ? KENTs filter sounds like a good
deal compared to an offer from a door-to-door filters salesman...

If these dozens of eBay guys can sell similar products for average $100
in retail and make a profit, than the wholesale price must be much smaller...
Paying $174 instead $100 does not necessarily mean you pay more
for a better product. It could mean simply you are paying much,
much bigger markups for a quite similar (or even worse?) product.

Think about it... What makes this or that filter better from any other ?
Clear housings? Maybe... Quality of the membrane ? Sure... but what is the
membrane manufacturer in KENTs or Marcs filter? Do you know this ? Without
knowing manufacturer/model numbers how are you going to compare them ?
Is it a "noname" product ? Or maybe non-conforming reject from factory ?
Who knows ? There are people on eBay selling their filters since 1999
and they at least list the membrane manufacturer so you know some
manufacturer has put his name on the product and you can look up the specs.
Chcek other eBay item 4404596254: same 5-stage filter, clear housings, total:
$71+S&H. Brand name, 100 GPD Applied Membranes AUTO FLUSH RO Membrane.

Marc's units are 100gpd so at $149 + I think it's a good deal.


Why do you compare this "deal" to KENTs and not to the filter from eBay guy?

Starting a reef tank is a huge expense and I think we've all knocked
on the door of the poor house when getting started.


Then again: why would you want to pay $174 instead of $100 ?

My next RO/DI unit will come from Marc.


But why ?
Because it just "must be better if it is more expensive" ? :-)
Or you just simply like to be taken advantage of... :-)
 




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